2024 Recruiting Thread

Thiefery said:
i'd pay a mil for Ryan if i had it
Click to expand...
But, good teams, like yours which have more money than most, can't afford to pay everyone, every year. At some point you have to maintain a culture and the NIL-first athletes aren't the ones you want, IMO. No one WR is worth that money, especially when you have to bump everyone else, and then do it all over again next year.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
But, good teams, like yours which have more money than most, can't afford to pay everyone, every year. At some point you have to maintain a culture and the NIL-first athletes aren't the ones you want, IMO. No one WR is worth that money, especially when you have to bump everyone else, and then do it all over again next year.
Click to expand...
Ryan Williams isn't anywhere in the same hemisphere as Evan Stewart was in terms of his recruitment

Evan made it clear he wanted to make as much as he could from the get go.. Him choosing aggy only confirmed that.. Jimbo was selling him on the only good WR he ever had.. at FSU. Everyone knew Fisher couldn't develop WRs.. it was an offense that fed TEs. Yet he still chose to go there..
 
Overall Recruiting Rankings (2024 Recruiting and Transfer Portal) on 12/28:

ACC:
1. Miami FL (5th nationally)
2. Florida State (10th nationally)
3. Clemson (14th nationally)
4. NC State (28th nationally)
5. North Carolina (31st nationally)
6. Louisville (35th nationally)
7. Syracuse (36th nationally)
8. Georgia Tech (41st nationally)
9. Stanford (42nd nationally)
10. Virginia Tech (45th nationally)
11. California (47th nationally)
12. Pittsburgh (48th nationally)
13. Duke (57th nationally)
14. SMU (58th nationally)
15. Wake Forest (60th nationally)
16. Virginia (67th nationally)
17. Boston College (68th nationally)

Big 12:
1. Colorado (21st nationally)
2. Texas Tech (24th nationally)
3. TCU (29th nationally)
4. UCF (33rd nationally)
5. Arizona State (40th nationally)
6. Kansas (50th nationally)
7. Houston (51st nationally)
8. West Virginia (52nd nationally)
9. Cincinnati (53rd nationally)
10. Utah (54th nationally)
11. Arizona (56th nationally)
12. Kansas State (61st nationally)
13. BYU (62nd nationally)
14. Oklahoma State (64th nationally)
15. Iowa State (65th nationally)
16. Baylor (66th nationally)

Big Ten:
1. Oregon (4th nationally)
2. Ohio State (6th nationally)
3. Penn State (17th nationally)
4. Michigan (19th nationally)
5. USC (20th nationally)
6. Nebraska (23rd nationally)
7. Wisconsin (26th nationally)
8. Washington (30th nationally)
9. Purdue (32nd nationally)
10. Minnesota (37th nationally)
11. Michigan State (38th nationally)
12. Iowa (43rd nationally)
13. Rutgers (44th nationally)
14. Maryland (46th nationally)
15. Illinois (49th nationally)
16. Indiana (55th nationally)
17. UCLA (63rd nationally)
18. Northwestern (102nd nationally)

SEC:
1. Georgia (1st nationally)
2. Alabama (2nd nationally)
3. Texas (3rd nationally)
4. Auburn (7th nationally)
5. Oklahoma (9th nationally)
6. Tennessee (11th nationally)
7. LSU (12th nationally)
8. Ole Miss (13th nationally)
9. Florida (15th nationally)
10. Texas A&M (16th nationally)
11. South Carolina (18th nationally)
12. Missouri (22nd nationally)
13. Kentucky (25th nationally)
14. Arkansas (27th nationally)
15. Mississippi State (34th nationally)
16. Vanderbilt (39th nationally)

Top 10 Independents/G5/PAC:
1. Notre Dame (8th nationally)
2. USF (59th nationally)
3. Oregon State (69th nationally)
4. Tulsa (70th nationally)
5. Washington State (71st nationally)
6. Charlotte (72nd nationally)
7. Toledo (73rd nationally)
8. Memphis (74th nationally)
9. ECU (75th nationally)
10. UNLV (76th nationally)
 
fishinabarrel said:
Something tells me he isn't running a 5 sec 40 and becoming a top 100 recruit as an RB from Cleveland. Only the southern schools get that sort of bump up
Click to expand...
best P5 RB this season is from the South
 
Thiefery said:
best P5 RB this season is from the South
Click to expand...

I'm not denying that more players are coming from the South, I'm saying, generally when a kid from, say Cleveland Ohio, does get ranked that high it's legit as it's harder for them to get the higher rankings
 
U
Thiefery said:
Ryan Williams isn't anywhere in the same hemisphere as Evan Stewart was in terms of his recruitment

Evan made it clear he wanted to make as much as he could from the get go.. Him choosing aggy only confirmed that.. Jimbo was selling him on the only good WR he ever had.. at FSU. Everyone knew Fisher couldn't develop WRs.. it was an offense that fed TEs. Yet he still chose to go there..
Click to expand...
Understood. Doesn't change my point ... you can't just pay the prima donnas a ton of money without having to up the payments to everyone else. Then you have to do it all over again the next year. And the year after that. At some point, you run out of money, even Texas. And you have a culture of it's all about the NIL. We haven't seen that you can win that way, yet.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
U

Understood. Doesn't change my point ... you can't just pay the prima donnas a ton of money without having to up the payments to everyone else. Then you have to do it all over again the next year. And the year after that. At some point, you run out of money, even Texas. And you have a culture of it's all about the NIL. We haven't seen that you can win that way, yet.
Click to expand...
Ohio State lineman made a couple of now-deleted comments:

1. tOSU doesn't want to pay much for linemen
2. One guy they were recruiting wanted 1mm a year and when he didn't get it went to Miami

www.outkick.com

Ohio State Player Makes Stunning Practice Claim In Now-Deleted Podcast

Ohio State offensive lineman Carson Hinzman made interesting claims about practices prior to the Missouri loss.
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com

I thought the market for proven mediocre QBs was 1mm but if the market is getting where linemen and receivers are asking for 1mm a year then the system is busted.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Ohio State lineman made a couple of now-deleted comments:

1. tOSU doesn't want to pay much for linemen
2. One guy they were recruiting wanted 1mm a year and when he didn't get it went to Miami

www.outkick.com

Ohio State Player Makes Stunning Practice Claim In Now-Deleted Podcast

Ohio State offensive lineman Carson Hinzman made interesting claims about practices prior to the Missouri loss.
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com

I thought the market for proven mediocre QBs was 1mm but if the market is getting where linemen and receivers are asking for 1mm a year then the system is busted.
Click to expand...
i would demand a million for me to live in columbus OH too
 
Wild Turkey said:
Ohio State lineman made a couple of now-deleted comments:

1. tOSU doesn't want to pay much for linemen
2. One guy they were recruiting wanted 1mm a year and when he didn't get it went to Miami

www.outkick.com

Ohio State Player Makes Stunning Practice Claim In Now-Deleted Podcast

Ohio State offensive lineman Carson Hinzman made interesting claims about practices prior to the Missouri loss.
www.outkick.com www.outkick.com

I thought the market for proven mediocre QBs was 1mm but if the market is getting where linemen and receivers are asking for 1mm a year then the system is busted.
Click to expand...

I agree with you here.

There are only 29 'elite' Offensive Tackles in the 2024 class. By elite I mean either 4* or 5*
247sports.com

2024 Top Offensive Tackle Recruits

The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.
247sports.com 247sports.com

There are only 19 'elite' Interior Linemen in the 2024 class.
247sports.com

2024 Top Offensive Line Recruits

The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.
247sports.com 247sports.com

So only 48 total 'elite' O-Linemen among 130 teams.

The vast majority of offensive linemen are 3 stars and those that can develop and coach them up best will have the most success.

Skill players QB, RB, WR, are a different story though.
 
Red_Alert said:
I agree with you here.

There are only 29 'elite' Offensive Tackles in the 2024 class. By elite I mean either 4* or 5*
247sports.com

2024 Top Offensive Tackle Recruits

The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.
247sports.com 247sports.com

There are only 19 'elite' Interior Linemen in the 2024 class.
247sports.com

2024 Top Offensive Line Recruits

The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.
247sports.com 247sports.com

So only 48 total 'elite' O-Linemen among 130 teams.

The vast majority of offensive linemen are 3 stars and those that can develop and coach them up best will have the most success.

Skill players QB, RB, WR, are a different story though.
Click to expand...
We got 4 of them. Me likey!
 
yeah i don't get how they can have like 7 WRs or so in the top 32 overall players.. and like 3 OL..
 
Thiefery said:
yeah i don't get how they can have like 7 WRs or so in the top 32 overall players.. and like 3 OL..
Click to expand...
As others have pointed out, OL are hard to ID in HS. Basically big ass people are more rare than fast people. And then in HS they just use their size and lean on people. Good OL take a couple years to get into a S&C program, get their weight right, and then develop. I know you know this, maybe for ohers. OL and DL ... get all the blue chips you can get, but have to have developmental guys. Some of our 2021 DL guys were 3*.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
As others have pointed out, OL are hard to ID in HS. Basically big ass people are more rare than fast people. And then in HS they just use their size and lean on people. Good OL take a couple years to get into a S&C program, get their weight right, and then develop. I know you know this, maybe for ohers. OL and DL ... get all the blue chips you can get, but have to have developmental guys. Some of our 2021 DL guys were 3*.
Click to expand...
It takes a truly special player to be able to come in and play OL right away in college. Other than QB is has to be the biggest development leap on the field.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top