Electric Cars

The max load would be dependent on the size of the truck. If a truck got 300 miles towing that, it would be good. I think the lightning is rated to 10k pounds.

I would be surprised if a truck, even with a larger fuel tank for towing, would have much more range than that. If not significantly less.
Pick up trucks that that have large towing capacities mostly have twin turbos now which increases gas mileage significantly. The 100 mile estimate for the F150 Lightening at 10,000 towing makes it useless. I respect Car & Driver's opinion on this.
 
Didn't say on that link

can't find anything more specific


750 miles in 10 mins?

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Pick up trucks that that have large towing capacities mostly have twin turbos now which increases gas mileage significantly. The 100 mile estimate for the F150 Lightening at 10,000 towing makes it useless. I respect Car & Driver's opinion on this.
But that’s not what we’re taking about. We’re talking about a truck with a 300 mile range at towing capacity.
 
Getting gas takes 5 minutes. Charging an electric car takes 4 hours.
For now. Back in them old days, there were not stations to fill in those 5 minutes. But somebody decide to put some money into infrastructure. Weird...
 
For now. Back in them old days, there were not stations to fill in those 5 minutes. But somebody decide to put some money into infrastructure. Weird...

Yes....indeed we need Indeed!


If I was younger (I'm filthy rich allready though!) I'd be gearing up to get into the charging kiosk building business...and PRONTO!

I may actually have to come out of retirement....seriously....can you all not see that their will soon be an overwhelming need for these things on every fucking corner!
 
Getting gas takes 5 minutes. Charging an electric car takes 4 hours.

You can get about 200 miles of range at a level 3 Tesla station in about 15 minutes homie.
 
Getting better:

The new Chevy Silverado EV towed a 6500 pound load 232 miles, with 15 remaining. A similar F150 towing the same load had 108 miles in estimated gas range left. Not quite the same, but that's getting into the "functional" category IMO. Not to mention, not towing a load it had a 475 mile range. That's some pretty nice stats. The obvious biggest problem is that this truck costs $78,000 still, where as the typical range for a normal silverado is around $40-$50k.

And obviously, superchargers need to be everywhere otherwise charing this 200kWh battery would take quite a bit of time.
 

"The federal government is also already offering all of these sweeteners to get people to buy electric vehicles. You get a $7,500, basically, check from the government every time you buy an EV. Let's not forget that we're subsidizing the battery companies, all of these things," Moore noted.

"I think the car companies would be smart going to hybrids where you can have gas and an electric battery," the economist and adviser suggested. "But the car companies aren't making those cars. And the reason they aren't making them is because the government has increasingly mandate[d] that all cars be EVs."


Bad news for California.
 



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"The federal government is also already offering all of these sweeteners to get people to buy electric vehicles. You get a $7,500, basically, check from the government every time you buy an EV. Let's not forget that we're subsidizing the battery companies, all of these things," Moore noted.

"I think the car companies would be smart going to hybrids where you can have gas and an electric battery," the economist and adviser suggested. "But the car companies aren't making those cars. And the reason they aren't making them is because the government has increasingly mandate[d] that all cars be EVs."


Bad news for California.
If Cali continues on it's path, it won't have much of a transportation network in 15 years. They don't have the power grid to charge EV's. Most people have no place in their homes to charge them even if they did have the power. Diesel powered trucks will be unwelcome, so food and equipment deliveries from outside the state will diminish to unsustainable levels. But hey, at least you're saving the planet right?
 
Meh. Could be teething problems. The refueling/recharging aspect of these cars was not very well thought out, in the mad push for introducing EVs. It worked well enough when it was only $50k Teslas and the rich assholes who could afford them; they either had access to enough charging ports of their own, or didn't cram the publicly available ones. Now that the cars are a little cheaper and there are more of them, the infrastructure still isn't there. Maybe it gets fixed in the next 10 years.
Yeah, but couldn't this happen with any bus? Plus, it was in SF, so there's a decent chance that crime, drug abuse, homelessness and poop were involved somehow...
If Cali continues on it's path, it won't have much of a transportation network in 15 years. They don't have the power grid to charge EV's. Most people have no place in their homes to charge them even if they did have the power. Diesel powered trucks will be unwelcome, so food and equipment deliveries from outside the state will diminish to unsustainable levels. But hey, at least you're saving the planet right?
Studies have pretty much shown that EVs are better for production, usage and end-of-life emissions, versus gas-powered cars:



Where your power comes from matters somewhat, but on average, it's 'greener'. Where the environmental groups and friendly government types failed, is that they never should've tried to sell the technology as ecologically responsible. It should've been a play for cheaper, better cars. We didn't want to get rid of McDonald's styrofoam burger packaging in the 1980s because we gave a shit about the environment; we just didn't want to pay 15% more for the paper packaging that would replace it. If the proponents of electric cars had said, look we'll triple your mileage and the EVs will be as cheap as gas cars, it wouldn't take long for consumers to embrace them. Instead, the cars are too expensive, recharging them is very difficult, and we have idiots like Biden who think the push should be about union jobs and AOC who think that we can just glue EVs into some revolutionary socialist transformative doctrine.
 
Just heard that the major Automakers have said that EV sales have 'Stalled'
Nobody is buying, and in fact Dealers can't even get people to test drive one.

 
Just heard that the major Automakers have said that EV sales have 'Stalled'
Nobody is buying, and in fact Dealers can't even get people to test drive one.

it's likely they have reached the point where everyone who really really wanted an EV now has one. The next wave will be those who are on the fence, so it is very likely that the demand has slowed until they get over that next hump.

I am currently not in the market for a new car but when I am, I will certainly be looking at EVs...but I am not there just yet and it isn't because I am anti-EV.

Cars are a big cost item that people just don't go and splurge on on a whim...it has other inputs.
 
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