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Volbound1700 said:
I think B1G will ultimately grab Oregon and Washington.
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I thought so too originally. But when they didn't add those 2 and said that they're waiting on ND, I started to question that. It might be a move to 18. ND and Oregon.
 
duckboy33 said:
I thought so too originally. But when they didn't add those 2 and said that they're waiting on ND, I started to question that. It might be a move to 18. ND and Oregon.
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I am still not sure ND makes the jump to B1G, at least not yet. The future of CFB is likely on ND. If ND joins the ACC, we still have a 3rd Power 5. If they join B1G or SEC, it is all over.

The issue is ND may not make the move for a couple of years even if they are interested in the B1G. I think ND wants to stay pat.

The one item of interest that is being pointed out on VolNation is that the B1G is more attractive now that they have USC who is a traditional Notre Dame rival.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I am still not sure ND makes the jump to B1G, at least not yet. The future of CFB is likely on ND. If ND joins the ACC, we still have a 3rd Power 5. If they join B1G or SEC, it is all over.

The issue is ND may not make the move for a couple of years even if they are interested in the B1G. I think ND wants to stay pat.

The one item of interest that is being pointed out on VolNation is that the B1G is more attractive now that they have USC who is a traditional Notre Dame rival.
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I believe that was the primary reason for the move. Obviously USC brings value to the Big Ten on their own but the goal has always been to make ND and offer it can't afford to turn down. This might be it.
 
Pac12 hubris sunk them. Had they gotten over being liberal and stuck-up (you can value liberal values but don't be close-minded), they could have picked up Boise State and BYU who were two solid programs that could have generated some life into the league.

UNLV could have also been an interesting pickup.

Pac12 needed to do something because the current format wasn't working but they did nothing and they fell apart.
 
duckboy33 said:
I believe that was the primary reason for the move. Obviously USC brings value to the Big Ten on their own but the goal has always been to make ND and offer it can't afford to turn down. This might be it.
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Possibly but the B1G should have gotten Boston College instead of Rutgers in that scenario. Boston College is that other game (along with Navy) that Notre Dame wants to keep.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Possibly but the B1G should have gotten Boston College instead of Rutgers in that scenario. Boston College is that other game (along with Navy) that Notre Dame wants to keep.
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USC is a much more valuable asset than BC or Navy. Big Ten probably can't justify adding them, even if ND likes those games
 
OregonDucks said:
Hope we get that call from the SEC before we beat Georgia otherwise we will be put on the 'Do not call' list by the SEC just like the Big TEn
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The SEC won't be expanding to Oregon, or the left coast. No need and the complexities of it are absurd.

The SEC will choose schools from the following list if it makes financial sense (in sort of an order of best to worst):

Clemson
FSU
UNC
Duke
UVa
Miami
OkSU
WV
NCState
VaTech
Louisville
Kansas

Truthfully, not many of these deliver that many eyeballs:

19. Clemson — 1.74M
22. Oklahoma State — 1.58M
25. Florida State — 1.27M
35. Miami — 1.038M
36. North Carolina — 1.032M
40. West Virginia — 948K
50. Louisville — 616K
51. Virginia — 611K
54. Kansas — 540K
56. NC State — 525K
62. Virginia Tech — 447K
96. Duke — 64K



They can go to 20 or 22, I can't see 8 teams that are worthy and would bring enough to the table to justify getting a piece of pie.

I'd go to 22 with a 3-6-6-6 schedule, and bring in:

19. Clemson — 1.74M
22. Oklahoma State — 1.58M
25. Florida State — 1.27M
36. North Carolina — 1.032M

Then 2 of these, with the hoops schools being first choice:
96. Duke — 64K
54. Kansas — 540K
50. Louisville — 616K
51. Virginia — 611K
35. Miami — 1.038M
40. West Virginia — 948K

Out:
56. NC State — 525K
62. Virginia Tech — 447K
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I still don't think ND joins a conference until it comes to the point that they absolutely have to (we arent there yet)
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If they don't join the ACC, the ACC is dead when their contract comes up for renewal.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I still don't think ND joins a conference until it comes to the point that they absolutely have to (we arent there yet)
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Notre Dame would be the huge get there. If they do that they are 17 and you have to go to 20 or 22.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
The SEC won't be expanding to Oregon, or the left coast. No need and the complexities of it are absurd.

The SEC will choose schools from the following list if it makes financial sense (in sort of an order of best to worst):

Clemson
FSU
UNC
Duke
UVa
Miami
OkSU
WV
NCState
VaTech
Louisville
Kansas

Truthfully, not many of these deliver that many eyeballs:

19. Clemson — 1.74M
22. Oklahoma State — 1.58M
25. Florida State — 1.27M
35. Miami — 1.038M
36. North Carolina — 1.032M
40. West Virginia — 948K
50. Louisville — 616K
51. Virginia — 611K
54. Kansas — 540K
56. NC State — 525K
62. Virginia Tech — 447K
96. Duke — 64K



They can go to 20 or 22, I can't see 8 teams that are worthy and would bring enough to the table to justify getting a piece of pie.

I'd go to 22 with a 3-6-6-6 schedule, and bring in:

19. Clemson — 1.74M
22. Oklahoma State — 1.58M
25. Florida State — 1.27M
36. North Carolina — 1.032M

Then 2 of these, with the hoops schools being first choice:
96. Duke — 64K
54. Kansas — 540K
50. Louisville — 616K
51. Virginia — 611K
35. Miami — 1.038M
40. West Virginia — 948K

Out:
56. NC State — 525K
62. Virginia Tech — 447K
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I am thinking SEC will feel pressure to add FSU and/or Miami to prevent the B1G from dipping into Florida. Only having one Florida school doesn't lock-up the valuable state for the SEC and I think the SEC wants to be the king in Florida.

I agree with your lists of candidates. I think UNC is probably high on SEC radar due to new market and UNC is decent on football and a blue-blood in basketball.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Notre Dame would be the huge get there. If they do that they are 17 and you have to go to 20 or 22.
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Well if they bring ND & Oregon that would be 18.

At that point I think Louisville and Okie State would probably make the most sense as 19 & 20.

I'm having a hard time seeing Da U, FSU & Clemson joining the Big 10
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I still don't think ND joins a conference until it comes to the point that they absolutely have to (we arent there yet)
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how much money is ND giving up by saying no to this?
 
Volbound1700 said:
I am still not sure ND makes the jump to B1G, at least not yet. The future of CFB is likely on ND. If ND joins the ACC, we still have a 3rd Power 5. If they join B1G or SEC, it is all over.

The issue is ND may not make the move for a couple of years even if they are interested in the B1G. I think ND wants to stay pat.

The one item of interest that is being pointed out on VolNation is that the B1G is more attractive now that they have USC who is a traditional Notre Dame rival.
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osubuckeye89 said:
I still don't think ND joins a conference until it comes to the point that they absolutely have to (we arent there yet)
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Look at tv money. By the end of the decade which is sooner than you think, ACC schools will earn 1/2 of what the B1G & SEC schools do in tv revenue. ACC has to renegotiate a new tv contract asap. Notre Dame knows this so it falls in them - will we have 3 of 5 P5s or P2 and everyone else?
 
Knowing The Big 10 though they'll end up with fucking Boston College & Syracuse as the other 2 schools. "wE nEeD eAsT cOaSt PrEsEnCe"
 
Huskers4me said:
Look at tv money. By the end of the decade which is sooner than you think, ACC schools will earn 1/2 of what the B1G & SEC schools do in tv revenue. ACC has to renegotiate a new tv contract asap. Notre Dame knows this so it falls in them - will we have 3 of 5 P5s or P2 and everyone else?
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Looks like a P2 and everyone else at the moment

Pretty much the SEC and B1G will own about everything meaningful outside of Clemson at the moment. And in the long run we will see how valuable Clemson really is......
 
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