More Michigan Cheating

Stalions no longer has a purpose now that helmet communications is allowed.
His only job was to use illegal means to decode signals of future opponents.

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He was tracking geographical data on every single draft pick to map out recruiting hot spots. He's a lunatic who just stumbled into sign stealing.
 
Without a doubt it irks you. That's why you are here posting. The only fans still talking about this are the fans who can't stand Michigan won the title.

Don't get it mistaken. The reason I'm here posting is because I enjoy calling you a dumbass. I've made fun of this situation the entire time. Whether that be Michigan, the accusations, or anything else. But most recently, to call you a dumbass.
 
He was tracking geographical data on every single draft pick to map out recruiting hot spots. He's a lunatic who just stumbled into sign stealing.
To be fair, that could be done on any modern laptop in a few minutes. Might be lunacy but it's also not difficult. Also not sure how you can say he "stumbled into sign stealing" when all along we've been told his military experience led him to get his job stealing signs.
 
I hate it when people even bring this up ... ohio state was ready to go we weren't - that sounds like a forfeit to me.
I get that teams couldn't play games because of covid concerns (as stupid as that was, it's where we were at the time). Only problem I saw was that they had a team practice the next day. Makes no sense if you had so many covid concerns.
 
I get that teams couldn't play games because of covid concerns (as stupid as that was, it's where we were at the time). Only problem I saw was that they had a team practice the next day. Makes no sense if you had so many covid concerns.
If you don't keep your team ready to play and the other team does - forfeit.

Now this signs stealing ... appears to be bullshit and whining.
 
If you don't keep your team ready to play and the other team does - forfeit.

Now this signs stealing ... appears to be bullshit and whining.
I mean, a coach can't keep kids from getting covid. I blame the Big Ten for their dumbass PCR rules that forced teams to not play. Again though, it made no sense that michigan wouldn't have been able to play a game Saturday because of these rules, yet they could practice the very next day?

As far as the sign stealing goes, it obviously was impactful on the field enough for Stallions to get a game ball during the time he was doing this. I get that teams all have their film they're given to study, but this clearly went well above and beyond. It's no different than the Astros scandal.
 
To be fair, that could be done on any modern laptop in a few minutes. Might be lunacy but it's also not difficult. Also not sure how you can say he "stumbled into sign stealing" when all along we've been told his military experience led him to get his job stealing signs.
It was in the Neflix doc. He just wanted to start into football coaching, asked the Navy coach if he could be on the team and help in some way, and they plopped him into stealing signs.
 
It was in the Neflix doc. He just wanted to start into football coaching, asked the Navy coach if he could be on the team and help in some way, and they plopped him into stealing signs.
So he started the sign stealing before michigan then?
 
When people compare Ohio Soft to A&M -- it is about buying players, nothing to do with "portal classes". Why you do you think when ESPN and CBS is writing articles about Ohio Soft the last few days -- it starts with Ohio Soft's 20+ million dollar team?!?

The elite programs don't have to do that -- the top players just want to go there and know they will earn their NIL, while competing for championships. Schools like Miami, A&M, Tennessee -- programs who haven't won anything in a long time are the schools buying players.............and now Ohio Soft.
Only poor schools aren't "buying" players. A&M did nothing wrong, we were just the first to figure out the NIL rules and exploit them. Now everyone is doing it. Except the poor schools.
 
So he started the sign stealing before michigan then?
According to the guy who is trying to save his own skin, yes. Wonder to what extent he was "sign stealing" vs scouting game tape, and what teams would have fired him (or convinced him it was time to "move on/up").
 
According to the guy who is trying to save his own skin, yes. Wonder to what extent he was "sign stealing" vs scouting game tape, and what teams would have fired him (or convinced him it was time to "move on/up").

Lol yea no kidding anyone who takes Stallions at his word is fucking gullible beyond belief
 
Lol yea no kidding anyone who takes Stallions at his word is fucking gullible beyond belief
I haven't watched the documentary because I don't have time to sit around and have smoke blown up my ass by a guy trying to get ahead of a narrative.
 
According to the guy who is trying to save his own skin, yes. Wonder to what extent he was "sign stealing" vs scouting game tape, and what teams would have fired him (or convinced him it was time to "move on/up").
It still just comes down to a simple question for me. A "low level" employee who wasn't making much paid for (what we know) 58 games to be scouted. These people weren't sitting in the top row of the nosebleeds either, so we're talking thousands and thousands of dollars. It's also not like he just did this maybe 3-4 times just to see if it helped, it was dozens. He did this year after year.

If it actually made no difference, or even a marginal difference, on the field - why would he keep doing it knowing it was an NCAA violation that could ruin his career and the program?
 
I haven't watched the documentary because I don't have time to sit around and have smoke blown up my ass by a guy trying to get ahead of a narrative.

He's one of those people who thinks they are good at being deceptive but they are actually horrible at it, you can tell he's full of shit after watching him and listening to him talk for just a couple of minutes.
 
It still just comes down to a simple question for me. A "low level" employee who wasn't making much paid for (what we know) 58 games to be scouted. These people weren't sitting in the top row of the nosebleeds either, so we're talking thousands and thousands of dollars. It's also not like he just did this maybe 3-4 times just to see if it helped, it was dozens. He did this year after year.

If it actually made no difference, or even a marginal difference, on the field - why would he keep doing it knowing it was an NCAA violation that could ruin his career and the program?

I'd like to challenge anyone who thinks knowing exactly what your opponent has up their sleeve is of "no advantage" to play a game of poker for money with me, but you have to show me all of your cards every hand since it's of "no advantage"
 
It still just comes down to a simple question for me. A "low level" employee who wasn't making much paid for (what we know) 58 games to be scouted. These people weren't sitting in the top row of the nosebleeds either, so we're talking thousands and thousands of dollars. It's also not like he just did this maybe 3-4 times just to see if it helped, it was dozens. He did this year after year.

If it actually made no difference, or even a marginal difference, on the field - why would he keep doing it knowing it was an NCAA violation that could ruin his career and the program?
And even without costs, doesn't anyone notice that a member of the staff (even scouting staff) who is never around on game day?
 
I'd like to challenge anyone who thinks knowing exactly what your opponent has up their sleeve is of "no advantage" to play a game of poker for money with me, but you have to show me all of your cards every hand since it's of "no advantage"
Yup, if I can look over at my opponent while playing madden and see what offensive play he is calling then I do a LOT better in that game.
 
And even without costs, doesn't anyone notice that a member of the staff (even scouting staff) who is never around on game day?
Well that's why he hired his friends to do it, so he could be calling out every single play to the coordinator in real time. The poker analogy is pretty spot on.
 
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