More Michigan Cheating

Voltaire said:
From what I read (just now) Bush’s investigation was started in 2007 (incident was 2004), and Bush spent 3 years in court defending himself. The investigation did not last 4 years.

1. Was Stallions employed by the University of Michigan at the time of the incidents (easy to prove)?
2. Did Stallions attend games of future opponents (Pretty easy to prove)?
3. Did Stallions record futures opponents giving signs? Do they have proof of the recordings?
4. Did Stallions share the recordings with anyone?
5. Who decoded the signals?

This does not appear to be a complicated investigation. Is there more to this than I know?
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You're claiming that USC wasn't under investigation from 2006 - 2010?
That USC punished itself in 2010 for no reason?

The proof and answers to your 5 questions apparently comes in June.

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Red_Alert said:
You're claiming that USC wasn't under investigation from 2006 - 2010?
That USC punished itself in 2010 for no reason?

The proof and answers to your 5 questions apparently comes in June.

:pop2:
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If memory serves me correctly, Reggie Bush took that case to civil court. The NCAA prevailed.
 
Red_Alert said:
Being how there's yet to be a final resolution, for all we know, we haven't been privy to the good stuff yet. It's not likely as cut & dried as the Michigan fans want it to be.
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We’ve seen leaks of every aspect, which as far as I know has never happened. NCAA gives us notice, we have the notice. Michigan responds, we have the response. It’s insane. We had Pete thamel reporting inside the stadium before the Ohio state game. The ncaa was leaking so much shit to everyone. And we’re banned from commenting on an open investigation. IMO those leaks should negate the whole thing.
 
Voltaire said:
If memory serves me correctly, Reggie Bush took that case to civil court. The NCAA prevailed.
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For his particular personal punishment.

USC themselves got punished for Failing to Monitor.

Harbaugh, Moore, Stalions, etc. will get their own punishments as well, but that doesn't abolish Michigan's part in Failing to Monitor.
Whether Harbaugh, Moore, Stallions, etc. opt to fight their personal punishments is up to them.
 
Voltaire said:
Have you ever known an investigation in the NCAA that is longer than this? This really isn’t the same team they been investigating.
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Per Grok:

NCAA investigations can be lengthy due to the complexity of cases, the need for thorough evidence collection, and coordination with legal processes.

1. Syracuse University (2007–2015, ~8 years)
2. North Carolina Academic Scandal (2010–2017, ~7 years)
3. USC (Reggie Bush Case, 2005–2010, ~5 years)
4. Baylor University (2011–2021, ~5 years)
5. FBI College Basketball Corruption Probe (2017–2023, ~6 years)

Why Investigations Take So Long:
• Complexity: Cases often involve multiple violations, sports, or individuals, requiring extensive evidence like interviews and financial records.
• Legal Coordination: NCAA often waits for federal or institutional investigations to conclude, as seen in the basketball probe.
• Due Process: Schools and coaches have rights to respond to allegations, access evidence, and appeal, adding time.
• Resource Constraints: The NCAA’s enforcement staff is limited, and high-profile cases demand significant resources.
 
So we can stop with the “why is this taking so long” narrative
 
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