More Michigan Cheating

WhosYourDawggy said:
You can't be this dense. We all know that you can try to steal signs in-game. Do you think we don't know that? The question is did they do any of the two things that are prohibited:

- Advance scouting at other schools
- Using video or electronic equipment to steal signals.

How could you not understand after 45 pages that is the issue?

And, there is a ton of circumstantial evidence that is what happened.

And no, my guy doesn't have a $50K recruiting staffer sitting next to him. He has million dollar TE coach, and other coaches and analysts next to him. I am sure there are people in the box who are trying to steal signals in-game, and make sense of formations, etc. But, not we don't buy front row seats to all SEC games and potential CFP opponents and stand the entire time recording the team's sideline. If we did, I would be embrassed.
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You keep calling him a recruiting staffer. He was hired as an analyst, whose background was in code breaking. He wasn't recruiting anything -- his sole job was to try and figure out the signs. And if you don't think Georgia has someone on the sidelines trying to do the EXACT SAME THING -- you are clueless. ALL TEAMS DO IT.

This is a big deal because the guy was buying tickets to other games. That's it.

I'm embarrassed, but I'm embarrassed by the stupidity of the guy buying tickets with his own credit card. That is the extent of the embarrassment for me. Every single coach in CFB will same the exact same thing -- They ALL are trying to steal the signals of the team they are playing. They are doing it at the HS level, they are doing at the CFB level and they are doing it at the NFL level.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
“He’s just a nice guy who was buying tickets for his friends”
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I need to get on his good side -- I'd love to go watch the UM/OSU game this year, but shelling out a couple grand to get tickets isn't in the budget.

I will gladly video tape anything he'd like.
 
It's so quaint having a scandal about football in football.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Reminder. Sign stealing is not legal if done by scouting on-site in advance of the game, or using electronic devices to record such signals. The circumstantial evidence indicates this happened.

We know that in the tOSU game last year they had the signals in advance and did not steal them during the game.

I'd grab my ankles if I were you ... NCAA, B1G, and/or the CFP are coming in dry.
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Nope. Sign stealing is always legal. Period.

Scouting in person is illegal.
 
Red_Alert said:
Not in-person of a future opponent, you fucking dipshit.

Keep gaslighting.
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That’s scouting dipshit. You don’t even know what words we’re talking about.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
The guy was hired as a football analyst, whose expertise was in code breaking. His sole job was to try and decipher the signals of the other team.

I swear, it is as people have no understanding of what goes on during an actual game. Has anyone on this site actually played the game of football? ALL TEAMS are trying to steal the signs of the other team during the game -- it is why teams change up their signs from game to game. This isn't just in college, HS teams change their signals each game, NFL teams change their signals each game.

Here is Nebraska's coach Matt Rhule's comment today:
“Sign stealing happens every game,” Rhule said. “There’s nothing wrong with teams over there looking over trying to steal our signs. There’s nothing wrong with us trying to look at their signs. That’s why you should have mics in the helmets, right? All these coaches have voted against it every year, it’s because they don’t want to teach their quarterback.

The guy who "randomly started giving advice to the OC and DC" -- guess what -- your team has one of those guys too. So does any major football program. You guys are acting like UM invented the wheel here. This has been going on for as long as football has been around.
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Key words "during the game". That is within the rules.

It's against the rules for in-person sign stealing of a future opponent.

Cite Matt Rhule all you want. He's talking about during an active game, not about in-person sign stealing of a future opponent.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
You keep calling him a recruiting staffer. He was hired as an analyst, whose background was in code breaking. He wasn't recruiting anything -- his sole job was to try and figure out the signs. And if you don't think Georgia has someone on the sidelines trying to do the EXACT SAME THING -- you are clueless. ALL TEAMS DO IT.

This is a big deal because the guy was buying tickets to other games. That's it.

I'm embarrassed, but I'm embarrassed by the stupidity of the guy buying tickets with his own credit card. That is the extent of the embarrassment for me. Every single coach in CFB will same the exact same thing -- They ALL are trying to steal the signals of the team they are playing. They are doing it at the HS level, they are doing at the CFB level and they are doing it at the NFL level.
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That is within the rules.

One more time for the back of the class.....

It is against the rules to send someone in-person to future opponents games to steal signs.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I need to get on his good side -- I'd love to go watch the UM/OSU game this year, but shelling out a couple grand to get tickets isn't in the budget.

I will gladly video tape anything he'd like.
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FFS

That's not what happened here.

Michigan was sending someone "in-person" to future opponents games to steal their signs.

How many times do you Michigan fans need to be told this. We're on page 44 of the same BS.
 
Red_Alert said:
That is within the rules.

One more time for the back of the class.....

It is against the rules to send someone in-person to future opponents games to steal signs.
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He was talking about the guy being on the sidelines during games. That is what that response was about.
 
BusSport said:
@HammerDown you'll love this piece of news: :laugh:

"Deion Sanders Comes to Michigan Football Defense in Sign Stealing"
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Omg @HammerDown is going to have to pick between siding with Ohio State or agreeing with Coach Prime


Im So Excited GIF by America's Got Talent
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Nope. Sign stealing is always legal. Period.

Scouting in person is illegal.
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Wrong. You can try to make up new definitions all you want, but "scouting" to steal signs of a future opponent is against the rules
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
He was talking about the guy being on the sidelines during games. That is what that response was about.
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And you were talking about wishing Conner Stalions would give you tickets to the Ohio St/Michigan game this year and that you'd do the sign stealing for them.

They don't fucking need you to steal signs of the opponent DURING a Michigan game. They already have people doing it and it is within the rules.

It is against the rules for Michigan to send people to an Ohio St game to steal signs when Michigan is NOT involved in the game.
 
Red_Alert said:
And you were talking about wishing Conner Stalions would give you tickets to the Ohio St/Michigan game this year and that you do the sign stealing for them.

They don't fucking need you to steal signs of the opponent DURING a Michigan game. They already have people doing it and it is within the rules.

It is against the rules for Michigan to send people to an Ohio St game to steal signs when Michigan is NOT involved in the game.
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Wrong.
 
Red_Alert said:
And you were talking about wishing Conner Stalions would give you tickets to the Ohio St/Michigan game this year and that you do the sign stealing for them.

They don't fucking need you to steal signs of the opponent DURING a Michigan game. They already have people doing it and it is within the rules.

It is against the rules for Michigan to send people to an Ohio St game to steal signs when Michigan is NOT involved in the game.
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I can't help but laugh at the outrage. Anyone who actually knows football, KNOWS teams change their signs all the time. Game to game. At the half. What the indicator is. Which person giving the signs is the actual real sign. It is the game within the game.

It isn't as if there is one person giving signs and teams are using the same signs every game.
 
Red_Alert said:
And you were talking about wishing Conner Stalions would give you tickets to the Ohio St/Michigan game this year and that you'd do the sign stealing for them.

They don't fucking need you to steal signs of the opponent DURING a Michigan game. They already have people doing it and it is within the rules.

It is against the rules for Michigan to send people to an Ohio St game to steal signs when Michigan is NOT involved in the game.
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The biggest deniers will be the biggest whiners when the penalties hit.

Back to Greg Schiano

 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I can't help but laugh at the outrage. Anyone who actually knows football, KNOWS teams change their signs all the time. Game to game. At the half. What the indicator is. Which person giving the signs is the actual real sign. It is the game within the game.

It isn't as if there is one person giving signs and teams are using the same signs every game.
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OK. So let's go all the way back to early pages.

If there's not a benefit/advantage to attending games of future opponent's to video their sideline signals, then WHY did Michigan do it?
 
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