More Michigan Cheating

lol what? You mean, other than all the other years of really good teams and winning, they came out of nowhere I tell you!
What other years? Your whole point was beating OSU was the "ONLY thing" separating the last 3 teams and the first 6, and I've proven that to not be the case the majority of the time. You can't manipulate and move the goal posts your way out of this one.
 
They were fine, but it certainly wasn't what was expected considering his coaching history. You can take the Covid year out of the equation if you want, and michigan was still on average a 9-4ish team.
Michigan won fewer than 10 games 3 times in Harbaugh's 9 years, one of those was the covid season. Taking the covid season out, Michigan won 10+ games in 6/8 of Harbaugh's time here.
 
What other years? Your whole point was beating OSU was the "ONLY thing" separating the last 3 teams and the first 6, and I've proven that to not be the case the majority of the time. You can't manipulate and move the goal posts your way out of this one.
In the first 6 years, 1/3 of the time beating Ohio State would have cemented Michigan winning the division. I think that pretty clearly proves your argument is full of shit. And one of those teams Michigan didn't play Ohio State (covid) and the 3 seasons, 1 of those would have had the same situation without trouble with the snap.

The only truly bad season Harbaugh ever had was covid.
 
Michigan won fewer than 10 games 3 times in Harbaugh's 9 years, one of those was the covid season. Taking the covid season out, Michigan won 10+ games in 6/8 of Harbaugh's time here.
That's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it is he only won 10 game in half of his first 6 years, and could never win more than 10 in any of those years.
 
In the first 6 years, 1/3 of the time beating Ohio State would have cemented Michigan winning the division. I think that pretty clearly proves your argument is full of shit. And one of those teams Michigan didn't play Ohio State (covid) and the 3 seasons, 1 of those would have had the same situation without trouble with the snap.
LOL 1/3 of the time proves my point you moron. Just because you don't know math doesn't make me wrong.
 
lol what? Michigan got to 10 wins 3/4 of his first 4 seasons at Michigan. Nice try though.

Remove the covid year and his worst seasons were 8 and 9 wins.
Hey dumbass, I said "Michigan struggled to get to 10 wins the first 6 years, failing to do so half the time" and that is true. Just because you change the statement to 4 years doesn't make me wrong. Add the two fucking years you trimmed off my statement and he ends up at 10 wins in 3/6 years...half just like I said.

I always knew you were a homer, but now I know you are a disingenuous fuckstain too.
 
LOL 1/3 of the time proves my point you moron. Just because you don't know math doesn't make me wrong.
It doesn't. At all. Not to mention, Michigan came close to beating Ohio State in one of Harbaugh's worst seasons at Michigan. The only thing that changed is beating Ohio State.
 
What are we betting? And are we betting that this gets connected to the school or other coaching staff financially or just that stallions wasn't paying all on his own? Because if a booster was helping, that's entirely different than if the school or a coach was helping; which was your original claim here.
I'll put my avy for 12 months on the line, will you do the same?
 
Hey dumbass, I said "Michigan struggled to get to 10 wins the first 6 years, failing to do so half the time" and that is true. Just because you change the statement to 4 years doesn't make me wrong. Add the two fucking years you trimmed off my statement and he ends up at 10 wins in 3/6 years...half just like I said.

I always knew you were a homer, but now I know you are a disingenuous fuckstain too.
How is that struggling? Fucking winning 10 games half the time is good.

You know who struggles to win 10 games? Texas A&M. That's a team who struggles winning 10 games; not a team who reached 10 half the time in the range you're talking about.

Jesus Christ that's a stupid argument.
 
It doesn't. At all. Not to mention, Michigan came close to beating Ohio State in one of Harbaugh's worst seasons at Michigan. The only thing that changed is beating Ohio State.
You: The ONLY thing separating each of Harbaugh's first 6 seasons when we never beat OSU, never won the division, and never won the Big Ten and the last 3 seasons when we beat Ohio State, won the division, and won the Big Ten was beating Ohio State.

Me: Beating Ohio State would've only won you the division and given you a chance to win the Big Ten in 2 of those 6 years.

You. Right, so every season would've been just like the last 3 if we had beaten Ohio State.

You are helplessly retarded.
 
I'll put my avy for 12 months on the line, will you do the same?
Sure. But to clarify -- because this is an important distinction -- we are talking about payments from the school (michigan) or from any of the coaching staff (on field coaches).

So you win if the school or the coaching staff is tied to any of the funding by the NCAA
I win under every other circumstance
 
You: The ONLY thing separating each of Harbaugh's first 6 seasons when we never beat OSU, never won the division, and never won the Big Ten and the last 3 seasons when we beat Ohio State, won the division, and won the Big Ten was beating Ohio State.

Me: Beating Ohio State would've only won you the division and given you a chance to win the Big Ten in 2 of those 6 years.

You. Right, so every season would've been just like the last 3 if we had beaten Ohio State.

You are helplessly retarded.
Beating Ohio State would have won the division 2 of out 5 of his first 5 seasons. That's fucking good. Your argument here is helplessly retarded.
 
How is that struggling? Fucking winning 10 games half the time is good.

You know who struggles to win 10 games? Texas A&M. That's a team who struggles winning 10 games; not a team who reached 10 half the time in the range you're talking about.

Jesus Christ that's a stupid argument.
Because either you win 10 or you don't. And if you don't win 10 games then it is safe to say you struggled to win 10 games. Not a hard concept.

Once again trying to deflect to my team. So sad.
 
Sure. But to clarify -- because this is an important distinction -- we are talking about payments from the school (michigan) or from any of the coaching staff (on field coaches).

So you win if the school or the coaching staff is tied to any of the funding by the NCAA
I win under every other circumstance
Nothing to clarify. If Stallions didn't pay for the in person scouting himself, you lose. You were adamant that my "opinon" wasn't based on any "facts". Ok, then put your avy where your mouth is. If you believe Stallions isn't lying in his documentary, then man the fuck up.
 
Beating Ohio State would have won the division 2 of out 5 of his first 5 seasons. That's fucking good. Your argument here is helplessly retarded.
2 out of 6. The covid year happened and you were embarrassingly bad. You said the "ONLY" difference. I point out that there were clearly other differences. You just don't want to accept that because it destroys your argument entirely.
 
There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports this. You think they were able to cover this up while the guy doing it was venmoing people on his public profile?

Could it be that's why Moore hasn't even officially signed his contract over 7 months after being named head coach?
 
Nothing to clarify. If Stallions didn't pay for the in person scouting himself, you lose. You were adamant that my "opinon" wasn't based on any "facts". Ok, then put your avy where your mouth is. If you believe Stallions isn't lying in his documentary, then man the fuck up.
You said it was school funded
Bullshit it wasn't school funded.

I don't know if someone else outside the UNiversity paid for it -- that isn't an NCAA violation and the NCAA has no power to enforce that. If the school funded it, as you claimed, that would be a pretty massive bombshell. I will absolutely bet you that the school, or coaching staff, didn't fund it.
 
2 out of 6. The covid year happened and you were embarrassingly bad. You said the "ONLY" difference. I point out that there were clearly other differences. You just don't want to accept that because it destroys your argument entirely.
That was the only difference. It wouldn't have been every single year. But if Michigan had two big ten titles in the first 6 years and then 3 in the last 3, you wouldn't be arguing "see, they all of a sudden got good".
 
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