More Michigan Cheating

[Red_Alert]

If not I'll break it down one further. I talked about one guy who supposedly paid for a rumored 5-6 dozen premium seat CFB tickets + airfare/travel costs + hotels. That one guy is an entry level staffer, meaning he ain't clearing six-figures. If you assume the only cost were the tickets, do you realize how much it costs to sit 50 yard line behind the team? Let's call it an average of $200, which is absurdly low but roll with me, for 60 games. You are telling me a lowly staffer who probably makes $30k a year is dishing out $12,000 for other people to attend games and come back with handwritten notes on signals and plays? No one is spending 8% of their gross budget (30k * 3 years this was supposedly going on) on this system.

So like I said, boosters and alumni aren't lowly paid staffers, meaning they make a bit more on average than $30k a year. This system had to cost in upwards of $10k a year, but UM fans sitting here buying into the bullshit notion that he paid for it all himself.

Yeah. It's pretty obvious the Stalions scheme was being funded by someone. As I said before likely a booster.

 

[Voltaire]

Well, let's recap






Clearer?

If not I'll break it down one further. I talked about one guy who supposedly paid for a rumored 5-6 dozen premium seat CFB tickets + airfare/travel costs + hotels. That one guy is an entry level staffer, meaning he ain't clearing six-figures. If you assume the only cost were the tickets, do you realize how much it costs to sit 50 yard line behind the team? Let's call it an average of $200, which is absurdly low but roll with me, for 60 games. You are telling me a lowly staffer who probably makes $30k a year is dishing out $12,000 for other people to attend games and come back with handwritten notes on signals and plays? No one is spending 8% of their gross budget (30k * 3 years this was supposedly going on) on this system.

So like I said, boosters and alumni aren't lowly paid staffers, meaning they make a bit more on average than $30k a year. This system had to cost in upwards of $10k a year, but UM fans sitting here buying into the bullshit notion that he paid for it all himself.

I never heard of Stallions before this thread. As far as I know, he can be a multimillionaire who gets a nominal amount of money from Michigan to be part of the program. Shit, what I don’t know can fill up the Grand Canyon 20+ times.

 

[fordman84]

I never heard of Stallions before this thread. As far as I know, he can be a multimillionaire who gets a nominal amount of money from Michigan to be part of the program. Shit, what I don’t know can fill up the Grand Canyon 20+ times.

He isn't. If he were a multimillionaire he wouldn't be scrapping around for a high school job, getting hired and then rescinded, then on to another high school as a DC.

I don't know his salary either, but I know what it costs to attend one game with a high profile team playing let alone 60+ of them. And I have the common sense to say "that doesn't sound right".

 

[Across The Field]

Link to stallions removing servers?

And if Stallions was removing servers, you don't think that's simply to cover up his own game film that he "illegally" had taken for him?

U-M's Moore violated NCAA rules, NOA draft says

Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore is one of seven members from the 2023 football program accused of violating NCAA rules in a draft of the NCAA's notice of allegations obtained by ESPN.

www.espn.com

The NCAA's draft said Stalions failed to cooperate with its investigation. The draft states that in October 2023, he removed hard drives from the Michigan football offices and also gave a football player a sheet containing playcalling signals of a future opponent. It said Stalions asked the player to bring the sheet to a team intern's house until he could retrieve it later. Stalions also refused to let the school review his phone, according to the draft.

At this point, it's impossible to say what was on the servers he stole. However, right when Stallions stole the servers was the same time the rumors came out about stolen practice film. In fact, it even started on MGoBlog.

 

[fordman84]

Link to stallions removing servers?

And if Stallions was removing servers, you don't think that's simply to cover up his own game film that he "illegally" had taken for him?

The reason he removed them wouldn't change the fact that he did, if he did. You don't get off the hook because you broke the rules and then undid your breaking the rules, especially if you break more rules (hiding evidence) in the process. At some point he should have just realized that he was busted and stopped digging, but again he appears to be the type of idiot that thinks he is smarter than everyone else. By continuing to lie, cheat, steal, cover up, refuse to cooperate, etc he has made it all worse for himself and the school. Regardless of that let's not forget that that back in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.

 

[Red_Alert]

In Texas horses have much more protection and right away over vehicles. If you hit a horse in Texas and the owner claims it got out on accident and they were actively searching for it, your ass is grass.

My nearest neighbor is about a half mile away and he raises about 30 head of cattle on his feedlot. Every now and then one gets out and ends up in my pasture.
Not that I care because he hays it on a 50/50 split, and I or someone else driving by notices it within a day.

"Hey Tom, come get your cow". LOL

 

[Red_Alert]

He isn't. If he were a multimillionaire he wouldn't be scrapping around for a high school job, getting hired and then rescinded, then on to another high school as a DC.

I don't know his salary either, but I know what it costs to attend one game with a high profile team playing let alone 60+ of them. And I have the common sense to say "that doesn't sound right".

Per Google, he was being paid $56,100 as a Michigan staffer.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

U-M's Moore violated NCAA rules, NOA draft says

Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore is one of seven members from the 2023 football program accused of violating NCAA rules in a draft of the NCAA's notice of allegations obtained by ESPN.

www.espn.com

At this point, it's impossible to say what was on the servers he stole. However, right when Stallions stole the servers was the same time the rumors came out about stolen practice film. In fact, it even started on MGoBlog.

Right. He removed his hard drives and took his ball home -- failed to cooperate with the NCAA -- and is likely going to get a show cause for a few years because of it. Those hard drives almost certainly had video on them, I mean...obviously had video on them at this point.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

The reason he removed them wouldn't change the fact that he did, if he did. You don't get off the hook because you broke the rules and then undid your breaking the rules, especially if you break more rules (hiding evidence) in the process. At some point he should have just realized that he was busted and stopped digging, but again he appears to be the type of idiot that thinks he is smarter than everyone else. By continuing to lie, cheat, steal, cover up, refuse to cooperate, etc he has made it all worse for himself and the school. Regardless of that let's not forget that that back in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.

Sure. But that is a long way from Weiss being involved, hacking Ohio State and that's the reason their singular (unused before) play failed against Michigan in 2022.

 

[fordman84]

Right. He removed his hard drives and took his ball home -- failed to cooperate with the NCAA -- and is likely going to get a show cause for a few years because of it. Those hard drives almost certainly had video on them, I mean...obviously had video on them at this point.

Did you just admit he was likely using electronic recording devices in his in person scouting scheme?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Per Google, he was being paid $56,100 as a Michigan staffer.

And his claim is that he had side hustles to pay for this, which amounted to about $10k per year.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Did you just admit he was likely using electronic recording devices in his in person scouting scheme?

The 3rd parties were. which is certainly a grey area in the rule book.

 

[fordman84]

And his claim is that he had side hustles to pay for this, which amounted to about $10k per year.

Great, let's bring the IRS into this as well.


OR, his side hustle was some booster or school fund paying him for his scouting services.

 

[fordman84]

The 3rd parties were. which is certainly a grey area in the rule book.

The grey area ends when the school benefits from the 3rd party data.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Great, let's bring the IRS into this as well.


OR, his side hustle was some booster or school fund paying him for his scouting services.

Trying to get my Avi day 1

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

The grey area ends when the school benefits from the 3rd party data.

So if I record Texas' signals tomorrow and send them to every other SEC team, or better yet, publish them on YouTube...all those other SEC teams who look at it commit an NCAA violation?

 

[fordman84]

So if I record Texas' signals tomorrow and send them to every other SEC team, or better yet, publish them on YouTube...all those other SEC teams who look at it commit an NCAA violation?

If they look at it and use it, yes.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

If they look at it and use it, yes.

I've discovered a way to get Ohio State in trouble

 

[Across The Field]

Right. He removed his hard drives and took his ball home -- failed to cooperate with the NCAA -- and is likely going to get a show cause for a few years because of it. Those hard drives almost certainly had video on them, I mean...obviously had video on them at this point.

His hard drives? You meant the school's hard drives? The ones that were accessible by every member of the coaching staff as well?

 

[fordman84]

I've discovered a way to get Ohio State in trouble

Gotta prove they look at it and use it, but yeah pretty much.