Tennessee Being Investigated for NIL Violations

[Guy Incognito]

Hide the mustard bottles.

 

[BigRedMoe]

Now you're trolling Nebraska fans

 

[BigRedMoe]

So I gather we can now pay "student"-athletes millions of $$$ but buying them a sammich will still get yer pee-pee slapped?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

NCAA about to go down

 

[CoalTrain]

NCAA about to go down

Bye NCAA..x buh bye

 

[Wild Turkey]

Bye NCAA..x buh bye

That could be a bad move because then it allows for the NCAA attorneys to do discovery and everyone interviewed will be under oath. When they start you can't control what they will ask and who they will interview. There is zero chance you guys haven't tampered with another athlete because EVERYONE is doing it and it will be open season for the attorneys on that.

I'd much rather fight the NCAA with attorneys outside the courtroom because no one can put you under oath or require testimony.

Tennessess' approach to this NCAA stuff is ass-backward.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

That could be a bad move because then it allows for the NCAA attorneys to do discovery and everyone interviewed will be under oath. When they start you can't control what they will ask and who they will interview. There is zero chance you guys haven't tampered with another athlete because EVERYONE is doing it and it will be open season for the attorneys on that.

I'd much rather fight the NCAA with attorneys outside the courtroom because no one can put you under oath or require testimony.

Tennessess' approach to this NCAA stuff is ass-backward.

I think it's more broad than even that, my guess is that this lawsuit at some level is arguing the NCAA has no legal authority to control what public universities do and specifically who they employ -- it goes beyond Tenn's "violations".



NCAA is cooked here IMO. The next step? Players can be employees of the University. IMO.

 

[fishinabarrel]

I think it's more broad than even that, my guess is that this lawsuit at some level is arguing the NCAA has no legal authority to control what public universities do and who they talk to about financials ect.



NCAA is cooked here IMO.

I highly doubt it. Tennessee might win the battle over whatever the NCAA is currently looking into but court discovery will allow them to find out 100 more dirty little secrets.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I highly doubt it. Tennessee might win the battle over whatever the NCAA is currently looking into but court discovery will allow them to find out 100 more dirty little secrets.

This lawsuit isn't specifically about Tennessee's violations, it's a broader lawsuit. This is a lawsuit that essentially seeks to suggest the NCAA has no power to police who universities employ. Creating the pathway to directly paying players. And the NCAA is going to lose; thus nullifying any "dirty secret" about Tennessee paying players.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I think it's more broad than even that, my guess is that this lawsuit at some level is arguing the NCAA has no legal authority to control what public universities do and who they talk to about financials ect.

They are arguing that the NCAA doesn't have any right to restrict tampering if you want to get to the bottom of it. They basically are saying an athlete can negotiate with whoever they want when they want and the NCAA doesn't have any legal authority to restrict it.

It is the equivalent of almost admitting you are tampering in a way.

If the courts rule that the NCAA can restrict the member organizations (which is really what they do) then this could backfire spectacularly. I wouldn't have filed this suit and have no idea why in the world the states would do this.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

They are arguing that the NCAA doesn't have any right to restrict tampering if you want to get to the bottom of it. They basically are saying an athlete can negotiate with whoever they want when they want and the NCAA doesn't have any legal authority to restrict it.

It is the equivalent of almost admitting you are tampering in a way.

If the courts rule that the NCAA can restrict the member organizations (which is really what they do) then this could backfire spectacularly. I wouldn't have filed this suit and have no idea why in the world the states would do this.

If the court sides with the NCAA, then we're probably just back to where we are currently. I don't think it could backfire here.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I highly doubt it. Tennessee might win the battle over whatever the NCAA is currently looking into but court discovery will allow them to find out 100 more dirty little secrets.

It's stupidity at its finest because the risk did not justify the reward.

Let's say they win then basically they have just won the right for other teams to recruit their athletes 24/7 365 and their coaches and administrators are going to have a nightmare on their hands as will all the other schools. There is no win with this strategy it would be much better to hire attorneys to wiggle out of the issue which has a much higher probability and less risk.

 

[Deep Creek]

NCAA shouldn’t even attempt to police NIL with the current rules. If/when rules are actually created and agreed to (that don’t violate laws) THEN they can attempt to enforce them. They are pissing into the wind right now.

 

[Wild Turkey]

If the court sides with the NCAA, then we're probably just back to where we are currently. I don't think it could backfire here.

You are so amazing at missing the important parts of almost every single issue. You are the poster child for clueless.

 

[Wild Turkey]

NCAA shouldn’t even attempt to police NIL with the current rules. If/when rules are actually created and agreed to (that don’t violate laws) THEN they can attempt to enforce them. They are pissing into the wind right now.

So you are of the opinion that other schools should be able to reach out to other athletes even if they aren't in the portal and offer them incentives to leave their current school?

 

[fishinabarrel]

This lawsuit isn't specifically about Tennessee's violations, it's a broader lawsuit. This is a lawsuit that essentially seeks to suggest the NCAA has no power to police who universities employ. Creating the pathway to directly paying players. And the NCAA is going to lose; thus nullifying any "dirty secret" about Tennessee paying players.

You can't directly pay football players because of Title IX. It will never happen

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

You can't directly pay football players because of Title IX. It will never happen

Sure you can. It may require athletes in the same sport be paid equally but in this case, most schools don't have women's football programs. It may end up being more tricky for things like basketball, but there's a far smaller number of athletes. It's the same reason that schools don't have to spend the same amount of money supporting women's sports as they do male sports....IE football budgets are like $100 million, and women's basketball gets like $3 million. But even then, men's basketball at most schools is more significantly funded than the women's equivalent.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Sure you can. It may require athletes in the same sport be paid equally but in this case, most schools don't have women's football programs. It may end up being more tricky for things like basketball, but there's a far smaller number of athletes. It's the same reason that schools don't have to spend the same amount of money supporting women's sports as they do male sports....IE football budgets are like $100 million, and women's basketball gets like $3 million.

That's not how it works. It doesn't have to be the same sport to count.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

That's not how it works. It doesn't have to be the same sport to count.

I'm going to push back with -- how much does your head men's basketball coach get paid vs your women's coach? Once they're employees, title IX has less of an impact here.

 

[rsw626]

So I gather we can now pay "student"-athletes millions of $$$ but buying them a sammich will still get yer pee-pee slapped?

That seems to be the long and short of it. And the word we are looking for is "asinine"