TV Series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

I liked both episodes. The characters are there so far. The house of Durin, Galadriel, Elron, and I'm guessing Gandalf just crash landed out of a falling star and was helped by hobbit folk. So in this, Gandalf came from some unknown place in the cosmos. I don't know of a book that described where wizards came from and how they got here. I don't know of a book that actually went into detail of this timeframe at all.

The way it's being described or laid out so far works for me.


How does he come from the cosmos? I thought they were in the center of the planet in the core.
 
I liked both episodes. The characters are there so far. The house of Durin, Galadriel, Elron, and I'm guessing Gandalf just crash landed out of a falling star and was helped by hobbit folk. So in this, Gandalf came from some unknown place in the cosmos. I don't know of a book that described where wizards came from and how they got here. I don't know of a book that actually went into detail of this timeframe at all.

The way it's being described or laid out so far works for me.

My understanding (but my memory could be failing me) is that they (Gandalf, Saruman, radagast) arrived by ship to the Havens where the elf in charge there gave Gandalf his ring of power. This act began Sarumans jealousy and rivalry with Gandalf
 
How does he come from the cosmos? I thought they were in the center of the planet in the core.
My understanding (but my memory could be failing me) is that they (Gandalf, Saruman, radagast) arrived by ship to the Havens where the elf in charge there gave Gandalf his ring of power. This act began Sarumans jealousy and rivalry with Gandalf

I've read both the hobbit and lord of the rings several times....but it's been years since I picked them up. I can't remember for sure how their beginning was described.
 
I've read both the hobbit and lord of the rings several times....but it's been years since I picked them up. I can't remember for sure how their beginning was described.

There's lots more books than those...
 
There's lots more books than those...

I tried getting through the silmarillian, but couldn't make it. I'm sure there are more beyond that but I'm not that interested. I thought that yesterdays two episodes were fun and interesting. The cgi is great. I like it.
 
My understanding (but my memory could be failing me) is that they (Gandalf, Saruman, radagast) arrived by ship to the Havens where the elf in charge there gave Gandalf his ring of power. This act began Sarumans jealousy and rivalry with Gandalf
This was my recollection as well, but I can’t say I can remember the passages, just an assumption.

And I also thought that Gandalf and Wizards arrived AFTER the events of Sauron’s defeat by Isiuldur in Mordor and all of the Numinor mumbo jumbo so I am not yet convinced this dude is Gandalf.
 
This was my recollection as well, but I can’t say I can remember the passages, just an assumption.

And I also thought that Gandalf and Wizards arrived AFTER the events of Sauron’s defeat by Isiuldur in Mordor and all of the Numinor mumbo jumbo so I am not yet convinced this dude is Gandalf.
He's clearly a wizard, might not be Gandalf. My memory of how they were introduced in the Silmarillion is "they just appeared"
 
He's clearly a wizard, might not be Gandalf. My memory of how they were introduced in the Silmarillion is "they just appeared"
My issue is that if this is one of the main 3 wizards then they should know plenty about the rings of power being if they were there during forging. But in LOTR they don't know enough about them and there us always too much unknown.

I am pretty sure I am right about the wizard arrival time but no reason for this guy NOT to be an unnamed wizard. Could be one of the blues.
 
I'm enjoying it so far, but I sure am a bit lost. Mainly on who asteroid/comet man is.
 
I'm enjoying it so far, but I sure am a bit lost. Mainly on who asteroid/comet man is.
Doing a LOT of setup in the first two eps, possibly even more will happen in the 3rd ep when we figure out who picked up Galadriel and that shipwreck guy
 
He's clearly a wizard, might not be Gandalf. My memory of how they were introduced in the Silmarillion is "they just appeared"
Silmarillion mentions that Gandalf didn't appear before the Third Age. They've already taken a bit of liberty with the source material with Galadriel not being married already. Doubt they make this change, too.

I'd been seeing talk about Meteor Man being a Blue Wizard, which according to one of the last books makes sense.
 
Silmarillion mentions that Gandalf didn't appear before the Third Age. They've already taken a bit of liberty with the source material with Galadriel not being married already. Doubt they make this change, too.

I'd been seeing talk about Meteor Man being a Blue Wizard, which according to one of the last books makes sense.
Which "one of the last books" are you referring to? One of those unfinished tales? I never finished those (ha ha)
 
Which "one of the last books" are you referring to? One of those unfinished tales? I never finished those (ha ha)
According to this site, they have conflicting backstories based on either Unfinished Tales or Peoples of Middle Earth.


I haven't read "past" The Silmarillion.
 
According to this site, they have conflicting backstories based on either Unfinished Tales or Peoples of Middle Earth.


I haven't read "past" The Silmarillion.
So basically they're Apocrypha
 
Silmarillion mentions that Gandalf didn't appear before the Third Age. They've already taken a bit of liberty with the source material with Galadriel not being married already. Doubt they make this change, too.

I'd been seeing talk about Meteor Man being a Blue Wizard, which according to one of the last books makes sense.


What's a blue wizard? And is this show expected to take time jumps like House of the Dragon is or will this only be focusing on one time period in the back history of LotR?
 
What's a blue wizard? And is this show expected to take time jumps like House of the Dragon is or will this only be focusing on one time period in the back history of LotR?
The wizards that came before Gandalf and Saruman.

This story takes place between the Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings, in the Second Age of Middle-Earth. They weren't given the rights to anything that has been written before, but they were allowed to use characters that would have existed like Galadriel and Elrond.

They may use a bit of flashback some more to fill in for people who haven't read the other stuff, but they seem to fly through it when they have to. I wouldn't anticipate too much timeline-jumping, since they already have to kind of compress 2000 or so years into one TV show.
 
so, i'm not some dork that's into book reading and stuff... mom did have me read the hobbit when i was like 10 or something. that said. i liked the LOTR. went to the first movie and was like, wait, that's it? bought every dvd (waited for the extras on the first, didn't for the 2nd, waited on the third, perhaps there was another 100 endings not explored), but saw every movie when it first came out. For a series, I think the production is certainly there.

I don't know what woke shit people talk about. Wheel of time wasn't the best, but I was a long for the ride and am curious to see were it goes. As far as this goes, woke is some cats being described as black being black while most are not? just get a life, it's a fantasy world.
 
How does he come from the cosmos? I thought they were in the center of the planet in the core.
My understanding (but my memory could be failing me) is that they (Gandalf, Saruman, radagast) arrived by ship to the Havens where the elf in charge there gave Gandalf his ring of power. This act began Sarumans jealousy and rivalry with Gandalf

Lot's of people online are taking guesses and oddly ... for me anyways ... few seem to think this is Gandalf. Some are saying it's Sauron.
 
Lot's of people online are taking guesses and oddly ... for me anyways ... few seem to think this is Gandalf. Some are saying it's Sauron.
The Sauron guess I saw elsewhere too, because the scene with the ice troll where the Elves mention that it's so evil that fire can't give off heat. Then Nori doesn't burn herself in the fire of the crater.

Not sure if the first is a clue to the second, or that it's just a way of identifying that magic exists in this world.
 
The Sauron guess I saw elsewhere too, because the scene with the ice troll where the Elves mention that it's so evil that fire can't give off heat. Then Nori doesn't burn herself in the fire of the crater.

Not sure if the first is a clue to the second, or that it's just a way of identifying that magic exists in this world.

Good stuff. That will give me something to think about.
 
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