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osubuckeye89 said:
Dude's a clown. Bama lost to fucking Vanderbilt and a 6 win Oklahoma team. They coulda easily ended up with the same record with anyone elses P4 schedule.

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Ha! He had an easier schedule than Oklahoma and Florida. Same thing this year.
 
The crying this week is all time funny.
 
podsox said:
The crying this week is all time funny.
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Yeah, it got tiring. That said, the schedules are more difficult ... just look at SOS. That said, Bama has nothing to complain about ... you just can't lose to Vandy and get blown out by OU and then act like you should have gotten in. Milroe just was not very good except against us.

Here is where I think this lands:

- The SEC does not go to 9 games until they know what the CFP structure is.

- They will support 5+11, but will be open to 4-4-2-2-1-3 because they will get the 4, and often 1-3 of the at-larges. This way they look like they were open to top 16, but when the B1G, B12, and ACC all realize their best bet is to get AQs, the SEC will say we won't hold it back but remember, we wanted best 16.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Yeah, it got tiring. That said, the schedules are more difficult ... just look at SOS. That said, Bama has nothing to complain about ... you just can't lose to Vandy and get blown out by OU and then act like you should have gotten in. Milroe just was not very good except against us.

Here is where I think this lands:

- The SEC does not go to 9 games until they know what the CFP structure is.

- They will support 5+11, but will be open to 4-4-2-2-1-3 because they will get the 4, and often 1-3 of the at-larges. This way they look like they were open to top 16, but when the B1G, B12, and ACC all realize their best bet is to get AQs, the SEC will say we won't hold it back but remember, we wanted best 16.
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Was more difficult. Strength of schedule is built on preseason rankings where the SEC had 9 teams. The SEC is still the deepest conference but with nil the days of 4 star backups is over. Their depth is gone and the field has leveled up.
 
man i hate how the conference is pushing this strength of schedule shit man.. it was more believable when they were actually winning titles year in, year out.

they aren't anymore... win it this year and then you can talk it was 2022 all over again.
 
Thiefery said:
man i hate how the conference is pushing this strength of schedule shit man.. it was more believable when they were actually winning titles year in, year out.

they aren't anymore... win it this year and then you can talk it was 2022 all over again.
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NIL and the transfer portal has completely evened the playing field and it's really shown the last couple of years. The SEC bosses and their drones at ESPN of course can see this clear as day so they gotta go with a even harder push with the bullshit about how "grueling and tiring" the regular season is.

Look at Tennessee's schedule

They played UGA then their next toughest game was Bama who ended up losing 4 games, then after that their next toughest opponent was fucking Florida a very mediocre 5 loss team. I'd like to see someone SEC explain about how that schedule is somehow more "exhausting" than Ohio State's.
 
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Storming a field or court is going to cost the wining team 500K for each incident regardless if it was their first infraction or not and the fines will to be paid to the losing team.

For example Vandy, Tennesee and Oklahoma rushed the field against Alabama and all had to pay them the fines so Alabama made 400K in fines last year and I suspect the majority went to their NIL fund.
 
podsox said:
Was more difficult. Strength of schedule is built on preseason rankings where the SEC had 9 teams. The SEC is still the deepest conference but with nil the days of 4 star backups is over. Their depth is gone and the field has leveled up.
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I don't deny that we have less depth than before due to the transfer portal and NIL. But, it's not like the teams that have always been more talented aren't still the most talented. They are. UGA's recruiting rankings during the NIL era have been 3,2,1,2.

As you can see below, in any metric that affects SOS, the SEC is still miles ahead of the B1G. Your recent bias, coupled with what you hope to be, is showing. It's like you guys won 2 NCs and think that everything has flipped. It hasn't. tOSU has always been great and in the hunt. They won an NC. And until it is vacated, UM has an NC. That's it.

The field hasn't leveled up as much as you think. The idea that the North is rich and the South is poor is ridiculous. CFB in the south is religion, and religious people have no problem tithing to their god.

I don't expect a quarter century to be as dominant as the last, and that's good for the sport. NIL, free agency, and the expansion of the CFP, along with Saban's retirement, will cause it. However, relevant metrics do not support the idea that the SEC is declining.

Let's just look at the last 2 years of recruiting and the transfer portal:

2025:
SEC - 1,2,3,7,8,9,10,11,16,17,18,20,28,29,32,77
B1G - 4,5,6,13,15,22,23,25,27,33,39,45,46,47,49,57,66,91

2024:
SEC - 1,2,6,7,8,10,13,14,19,20,21,22,24,29,30,40
B1G - 3,5,15,16,17,18,23,27,32,35,36,38,42,47,49,65,80,90

You might say, well, what about the transfer portal ... glad you asked. I'll just do top 25:

2025:
SEC - 1,4,7,8,10,11,12,15,16,17,21,24,26
B1G - 5,13,14,18,20,22,25

2024:
SEC - 1,3,4,5,6,13,14,16,20,21
B1G - 2,9,11,12,19,23

What about the Talent Composite? Just the top 25-ish

2024
SEC - 1,2,4,7,8,10,12,17,18,19,20,21,24,26
B1G - 3,16,11,15,16,23,27

2023
SEC - 1,2,4,6,7,9,15,16,18,22,23,25,29,31,32
B1G - 3,8,10,13,14,21,24,26,27,30

And, then back to the SOS:

2024:
SEC - 1,3,6,7,8,9,13,14,16,17,20,21,24
B1G - 2,5,10,11,12,15,18,19,22
 
osubuckeye89 said:
NIL and the transfer portal has completely evened the playing field and it's really shown the last couple of years. The SEC bosses and their drones at ESPN of course can see this clear as day so they gotta go with a even harder push with the bullshit about how "grueling and tiring" the regular season is.

Look at Tennessee's schedule

They played UGA then their next toughest game was Bama who ended up losing 4 games, then after that their next toughest opponent was fucking Florida a very mediocre 5 loss team. I'd like to see someone SEC explain about how that schedule is somehow more "exhausting" than Ohio State's.
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See my post above ... does that look like a completely even playing field to you? You guys have always been at the top, so nothing has changed there. And you picked up Oregon who is good, but hasn't gotten to the top yet. UM cheated its way to the top and has now dropped dramatically with a follow-up 8-5 season. They weren't built to sustain excellence, although they could be with the right coach.
 
Thiefery said:
man i hate how the conference is pushing this strength of schedule shit man.. it was more believable when they were actually winning titles year in, year out.

they aren't anymore... win it this year and then you can talk it was 2022 all over again.
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I can understand a Texas fan not wanting to look at SOS. It's kind of embarrassing when you played a shit schedule last year and this year.

Neither conference did their teams any favors by having such imbalanced schedules. Compare OU and TX and it's absurd. Compare UF to UTjr. The SEC fucked up royally there. Same with the B1G. IU's schedule was a joke.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I can understand a Texas fan not wanting to look at SOS. It's kind of embarrassing when you played a shit schedule last year and this year.

Neither conference did their teams any favors by having such imbalanced schedules. Compare OU and TX and it's absurd. Compare UF to UTjr. The SEC fucked up royally there. Same with the B1G. IU's schedule was a joke.
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This is the main problem now, the wildly unbalanced schedules that these big conferences create.

SOS is meh metric, especially when it can start based off of preseason rankings, or off of rankings from shady metric systems that think teams like Auburn are near top 25 caliber or that Bama is a top 5 team.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Yeah, it got tiring. That said, the schedules are more difficult ... just look at SOS. That said, Bama has nothing to complain about ... you just can't lose to Vandy and get blown out by OU and then act like you should have gotten in. Milroe just was not very good except against us.

Here is where I think this lands:

- The SEC does not go to 9 games until they know what the CFP structure is.

- They will support 5+11, but will be open to 4-4-2-2-1-3 because they will get the 4, and often 1-3 of the at-larges. This way they look like they were open to top 16, but when the B1G, B12, and ACC all realize their best bet is to get AQs, the SEC will say we won't hold it back but remember, we wanted best 16.
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i would say often 1 at large not 2 or 3
ND would likely be an at large more often than not.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
This is the main problem now, the wildly unbalanced schedules that these big conferences create.

SOS is meh metric, especially when it can start based off of preseason rankings, or off of rankings from shady metric systems that think teams like Auburn are near top 25 caliber or that Bama is a top 5 team.
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The SOS I gave you was after 16 weeks. I get the argument that the SEC gets favored treatment early, but after 16 weeks, that is worked out of the equation.

It's hard to understand how bad the conferences were at balancing schedules. I could have done better drunk off my ass.
 
OlyDuck said:
i would say often 1 at large not 2 or 3
ND would likely be an at large more often than not.
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So there would be 2 at-larges if ND gets one.

I just don't see the SEC limiting itself. But, there may be 3 against 1 for the AQs once the ACC and B12 get their panties untwisted and realize its in their best interest to get 2 AQs, with 2-3 more at-larges.
 
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