USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
If OU and Texas start having crossover games with a Bama, Georgia, etc., on top of their conference games, whoever they may be -- I'm guessing teams like A&M, LSU, etc. -- the last thing they are going to do is schedule more high profile OOC games.
Same can be said with USC, if they end up playing OSU, UM, PSU, etc. in conference -- they aren't going to be scheduling ND as the last thing they'd want is another cross country trip. I'm sure if ND agreed to travelling to USC for the game each year -- they'd be alright with keeping it going.

I think these superconferences are going to put an end to alot of long standing rivalry games. The end goal for teams is still getting to the CFP, but they aren't going play a murderers row of teams each year to get there.
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well they have Michigan and ohio state coming up after the Bama series.. and word is that they are replacing the UGA series with penn st. Not sure why you think UT would stop scheduling a marquee OOC every year.
 
wazzu31 said:
I get SC but what benefit does UCLA get? UCLA is a public school in California that values non revenue sports, does the B1G even really have non revenue sports that makes sense to fly that far out? UCLA bitches about their trips to Pullman in November because it is too cold but they are willing to go to Indiana in November? I get SC and it would’ve made sense for Stanford but I don’t get UCLA unless the B1G is hoping this 2 year run in basketball for UCLA is anything other than a fluke.
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They were going to have drop a decent amount of those non revenue sports (article I read called them "Olympic sports") without B1G money
 
fishinabarrel said:
They were going to have drop a decent amount of those non revenue sports (article I read called them "Olympic sports") without B1G money
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USC doesn't play as many Olympic sports as UCLA. Softball for instance USC claims they don't have room on campus to build a softball stadium. Maybe they just don't want to compete with UCLA who tends to dominate those sports.
 
trojanfan12 said:
I'd say jumping from $30 million per year in tv revenue to $100+ million per year is a decent benefit.
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$70 million is a lot for sure and I can’t blame them. And if that is the case then so but that UCLA school is a lot different than one Bill Walton has talked about.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I don't think you could be sitting any better than you are right now. Worst case scenario is a full merger with the PAC (which includes you) or you cherry-pick. Personally, I would get aggressive and cherry-pick forcing the issue because Oregon (possibly Washington) is going to fight a merger as they are fighting to get in the B1G or SEC.

The Big 12 all of the sudden goes from an AAC look-alike to closing on the ACC for 3rd best conference and at least a temporary say in the playoff situation.

I hope you guys get Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington and Oregon because that changes everything. It doesn't replace OU and Texas but it gives you some big games to market:

Utah vs BYU
Washington vs Oregon
Arizona vs ASU
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On Forde's and Wetzel's podcast their idea is for the B12 to invite the two AZ schools, Colorado and Utah, then Oregon and Washington. Offer them a free pass from the B12 GOR if the B1G comes calling. You know the B1G doesn't want the AZ schools or Colorado or Utah. Maybe later they decide they want Oregon and Washington. That way they go to 18 with the best from the PAC, the PAC is destroyed and can't pick off their schools and they can negotiate their TV contract with the new 6 teams. If Ore and Wash get the invite from the B1G, the networks can renegotiate. It's a great idea, I think.

Also said they thought Stanford should go Independent. Cal is screwed, and the two terrible state teams would merge into a G5 conference where they have belonged all along.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
On Forde's and Wetzel's podcast their idea is for the B12 to invite the two AZ schools, Colorado and Utah, then Oregon and Washington. Offer them a free pass from the B12 GOR if the B1G comes calling. You know the B1G doesn't want the AZ schools or Colorado or Utah. Maybe later they decide they want Oregon and Washington. That way they go to 18 with the best from the PAC, the PAC is destroyed and can't pick off their schools and they can negotiate their TV contract with the new 6 teams. If Ore and Wash get the invite from the B1G, the networks can renegotiate. It's a great idea, I think.

Also said they thought Stanford should go Independent. Cal is screwed, and the two terrible state teams would merge into a G5 conference where they have belonged all along.
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lol those guys change their tunes 180 week to week lol

Not saying that their idea is bad or anything, it's actually a good idea for the Big12 to come at oregon and washington with that offer. And let it be known that they can leave as long as they give a year or two heads up. I still think the Big12 would like to have one team from CA.. but I really don't think Stanford would do it.. Maybe Cal sees the writing on the wall?
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
On Forde's and Wetzel's podcast their idea is for the B12 to invite the two AZ schools, Colorado and Utah, then Oregon and Washington. Offer them a free pass from the B12 GOR if the B1G comes calling. You know the B1G doesn't want the AZ schools or Colorado or Utah. Maybe later they decide they want Oregon and Washington. That way they go to 18 with the best from the PAC, the PAC is destroyed and can't pick off their schools and they can negotiate their TV contract with the new 6 teams. If Ore and Wash get the invite from the B1G, the networks can renegotiate. It's a great idea, I think.

Also said they thought Stanford should go Independent. Cal is screwed, and the two terrible state teams would merge into a G5 conference where they have belonged all along.
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I've always thought the 130+ FBS schools should be broken down into 2 or 3 divisions anyway. My Miners are one of those 130+ but we live in a low rent dream world if we think we'd every compete for a natty with the big dogs. Could a school like mine catch lightening in a bottle? As we saw recently, Cincy was good....even better than many lower P5 teams. Beat mighty Notre Dame. But they really didn't even come close when it came playoff time.

There's just too much disparity among them to overcome in order to fully compete consistently....at least in FOOTBALL. Coastal Carolina can win a natty in baseball and so forth. No way in football.

Football divisions of 40 top dogs, 40 middle dogs, 40 bottom dogs. Maybe even throw the FCS in the mix and make it 4-5 divisions. Those may not be the exact numbers. Let the numbers break down naturally where the significant disparity shows up.
 
Deep Creek said:
I've always thought the 130+ FBS schools should be broken down into 2 or 3 divisions anyway. My Miners are one of those 130+ but we live in a low rent dream world if we think we'd every compete for a natty with the big dogs. Could a school like mine catch lightening in a bottle? As we saw recently, Cincy was good....even better than many lower P5 teams. Beat mighty Notre Dame. But they really didn't even come close when it came playoff time.

There's just too much disparity among them to overcome in order to fully compete consistently....at least in FOOTBALL. Coastal Carolina can win a natty in baseball and so forth. No way in football.

Football divisions of 40 top dogs, 40 middle dogs, 40 bottom dogs. Maybe even throw the FCS in the mix and make it 4-5 divisions. Those may not be the exact numbers. Let the numbers break down naturally where the significant disparity shows up.
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Yup. I'll repeat forever that it's entirely stupid that EMU and Tulsa play for the same national title as Alabama. It should be at least two different divisions, and the major division (now the 5 P5 conferences) should condense to either 2 or 4 conferences. And the champions of those conferences play for a title, and you could even use the conference titles as a way to start the playoff.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Yup. I'll repeat forever that it's entirely stupid that EMU and Tulsa play for the same national title as Alabama. It should be at least two different divisions, and the major division (now the 5 P5 conferences) should condense to either 2 or 4 conferences. And the champions of those conferences play for a title, and you could even use the conference titles as a way to start the playoff.
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I've used the word absurb more than once. And like I said, EMU, Tulsa, etal live in a low rent dream world (like my Miners) if they think they can compete year in and year out with the big dogs of the world. Can they beat 'em once in a while? Hell yeah, ULM has beaten Bama, App State beat Michigan, shit happens. But very, very rarely.
 
fishinabarrel said:
They were going to have drop a decent amount of those non revenue sports (article I read called them "Olympic sports") without B1G money
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But that doesn’t really change that though. This is just coming from a state that fights over the same shady stuff. Within 2 years there will be legislation saying UCLA will have to revenue share with entire California public university schools.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
The B1G is all about academics, UCLA fits that role perfectly as one of the top universities academically. The LA tv market is enormous, so grabbing the two biggest schools in that market will only make TV deals go up. It is the same reason we brought in Rutgers and Maryland. It is all about the market shares.
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But that’s the thing with the west coast teams, outside of SC there isn’t a “market” that is brought in because the west coast sports fans are all transplants. So I get the move “bringing in LA market” but from UCLA’s perspective I don’t. They are a public school who now has to spend a crap load of money on expenses for the Olympic sports and some of the revenue they receive will end not going to the university.
 
Thiefery said:
i suppose this is a chance for the representatives to roast UCLAs president? Like how Hartzell had to get trolled by the woman TCU alumn?
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A little different with a private TCU and the top public institution in the California system.
 
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