2022 Season Thread

[wildturkey]

Blaney just signed a long term extension at Penske. I'm kind of surprised. While he has ran good, I figured he'd gun to take the #1 spot at another organization like SHR. Logano seems to have #1 locked up at Penske.

It's not like any of those cars would be any better though. Blaney has ran well. He's actually like 2nd in pts. It's just that for whatever reason, he hasn't cracked the winner's circle. Maaaybe the 4 would be better if Harvick were to retire and they threw all the resources behind it, but where he's at is definitely better than the other 3 cars there. Plus, Penske is pretty good about dividing up their resources and having equally competitive cars. So he's in a very good spot

 

[Y.O.M.]

Blaney just signed a long term extension at Penske. I'm kind of surprised. While he has ran good, I figured he'd gun to take the #1 spot at another organization like SHR. Logano seems to have #1 locked up at Penske.

Blaney doesn't seem the type to desire being the #1 guy in any organization. That's not a knock on Blaney. He just doesn't strike me as that guy. The quiet professional, as they say.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

It's not like any of those cars would be any better though. Blaney has ran well. He's actually like 2nd in pts. It's just that for whatever reason, he hasn't cracked the winner's circle. Maaaybe the 4 would be better if Harvick were to retire and they threw all the resources behind it, but where he's at is definitely better than the other 3 cars there. Plus, Penske is pretty good about dividing up their resources and having equally competitive cars. So he's in a very good spot

The 14 has had speed all year, Briscoe is just checkers or wreckers. The 10 and the 41 and definitely behind the 4 and 14 though.

No proof to back it up, but I’ve always considered the 4 and 14 to be Stewart’s and the 10 and 41 to be Haas’s

 

[Y.O.M.]

The 14 has had speed all year, Briscoe is just checkers or wreckers. The 10 and the 41 and definitely behind the 4 and 14 though.

No proof to back it up, but I’ve always considered the 4 and 14 to be Stewart’s and the 10 and 41 to be Haas’s

I have also always thought that and indeed, like you, there's no concrete proof behind that. But I think it's obvious.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

So apparently Texas isn’t going away, it’s just gonna be reconfigured, and it sounds like they’re gonna make it the same as Atlanta, just a mini, more narrow super speedway, which would suck. Fontana is being made into a short track, but Texas can’t really do that.

If they’d just make it like it was in the early to mid 00’s, it would be fine. They go the super speedway route, they can’t host Indy races

 

[Grant Ward]

Kurt out for the Glen and Daytona. I feel for sure this is his last season, if he does get to return at all.

 

[Fish]

Kurt out for the Glen and Daytona. I feel for sure this is his last season, if he does get to return at all.

I'm beginning to wonder if he comes back this year.

When asked straight up, nascar official wouldn't answer about what happens if he can't show for the first playoff race.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Kurt out for the Glen and Daytona. I feel for sure this is his last season, if he does get to return at all.

Was he not wearing his restraints for a qualifying run or something? His car backed into the wall and hit nothing else. I never saw an impact like that hurt a driver before the COT and SAFER barriers.

 

[Fish]

Was he not wearing his restraints for a qualifying run or something? His car backed into the wall and hit nothing else. I never saw an impact like that hurt a driver before the COT and SAFER barriers.

I'd seriously doubt that. I just watched the vid and he hit pretty hard backwards then the front end whipped around and hit the wall.

Maybe cumulative from over time?

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

I'd seriously doubt that. I just watched the vid and he hit pretty hard backwards then the front end whipped around and hit the wall.

Maybe cumulative from over time?

I still think there’s more to it. This is a guy that missed the start of a season because he claimed his GF was an assassin. He’ll always be Rubberhead to me

 

[Grant Ward]

I'm beginning to wonder if he comes back this year.

When asked straight up, nascar official wouldn't answer about what happens if he can't show for the first playoff race.

They said on TMD on Nascar radio this morning that as it stands right now, Busch is locked into the playoffs and can miss the first 2 races. Obviously if he doesn't win the 3rd race of that round, he doesn't advance because he won't have any playoff points to fall back on.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

They said on TMD on Nascar radio this morning that as it stands right now, Busch is locked into the playoffs and can miss the first 2 races. Obviously if he doesn't win the 3rd race of that round, he doesn't advance because he won't have any playoff points to fall back on.

He’s not locked in. If there’s a new winner this week and another next week, he’d be the driver lowest in points with one win. It’s a road course and Daytona, maybe not likely, but very possible

 

[Fish]

They said on TMD on Nascar radio this morning that as it stands right now, Busch is locked into the playoffs and can miss the first 2 races. Obviously if he doesn't win the 3rd race of that round, he doesn't advance because he won't have any playoff points to fall back on.

This is off Nascar.com

Scenario: 17 winners​

Call this one The Chaos Theory.

If there are 17 winners, clearly a driver who has won a race will not advance to the 16-driver playoffs.

Here’s how it would be determined: Every driver with multiple wins would advance. So, Chase Elliott (4 wins), Ross Chastain (2), Joey Logano (2), Kevin Harvick (2), William Byron (2), Denny Hamlin (2) and Tyler Reddick (2) are safe. One-win drivers Kyle Larson, Christopher Bell and Kyle Busch also mathematically cannot be eliminated from the postseason picture if there are 17 winners, so count them in the field, too.

Of all the remaining drivers with one victory, whoever is lowest in the points standings would be eliminated and not advance to the postseason.

Of the current crop of winners, Kurt Busch is the likely odd man out in this scenario, given that he has missed four consecutive races due to recovering from concussion-like symptoms following a qualifying wreck at Pocono Raceway. However, if one of the new winners sits behind Busch in the standings, it’s possible they could win one of the remaining two races and still not advance in this scenario.

Here’s a look at the points between the remaining one-time winners this year:

Driver	Points	Behind
Alex Bowman	592	—
Daniel Suárez	574	-18
Austin Cindric	556	-36
Chase Briscoe	549	-43
Kurt Busch	485	-107

NASCAR Playoffs 101: What happens if there are 16 -- or more -- winners in the regular season?

With 15 Cup Series winners so far this season, there are still various scenarios in play for this year's postseason.

www.nascar.com

I suppose that means if Truex and Blaney win the next 2 races then Busch is out.
But then when I look at the regular season standings the following are ahead of Busch in points right now Besides Truex and Blaney
Almirola
Jones
Wallace
Dillon
and Buescher only trails him by 5 points and a win would obviously take care of that.

So if there are 17 winners and any of these are one of them it's my understanding Busch would be out.

 

[Grant Ward]

He’s not locked in. If there’s a new winner this week and another next week, he’d be the driver lowest in points with one win. It’s a road course and Daytona, maybe not likely, but very possible

Right, but at the moment he is locked in, assuming no new winners.

 

[Grant Ward]

This is off Nascar.com

Scenario: 17 winners​

Call this one The Chaos Theory.

If there are 17 winners, clearly a driver who has won a race will not advance to the 16-driver playoffs.

Here’s how it would be determined: Every driver with multiple wins would advance. So, Chase Elliott (4 wins), Ross Chastain (2), Joey Logano (2), Kevin Harvick (2), William Byron (2), Denny Hamlin (2) and Tyler Reddick (2) are safe. One-win drivers Kyle Larson, Christopher Bell and Kyle Busch also mathematically cannot be eliminated from the postseason picture if there are 17 winners, so count them in the field, too.

Of all the remaining drivers with one victory, whoever is lowest in the points standings would be eliminated and not advance to the postseason.

Of the current crop of winners, Kurt Busch is the likely odd man out in this scenario, given that he has missed four consecutive races due to recovering from concussion-like symptoms following a qualifying wreck at Pocono Raceway. However, if one of the new winners sits behind Busch in the standings, it’s possible they could win one of the remaining two races and still not advance in this scenario.

Here’s a look at the points between the remaining one-time winners this year:

Driver	Points	Behind
Alex Bowman	592	—
Daniel Suárez	574	-18
Austin Cindric	556	-36
Chase Briscoe	549	-43
Kurt Busch	485	-107

NASCAR Playoffs 101: What happens if there are 16 -- or more -- winners in the regular season?

With 15 Cup Series winners so far this season, there are still various scenarios in play for this year's postseason.

www.nascar.com

I suppose that means if Truex and Blaney win the next 2 races then Busch is out.
But then when I look at the regular season standings the following are ahead of Busch in points right now Besides Truex and Blaney
Almirola
Jones
Wallace
Dillon
and Buescher only trails him by 5 points and a win would obviously take care of that.

So if there are 17 winners and any of these are one of them it's my understanding Busch would be out.

Right, but as of this moment, he is locked in, barring no new winners.

 

[Fish]

Scenario:

Watkins Glen or Daytona

Truex is leading, Hamlin or Busch or Bell is behind, last lap. Do they push it and try to win, thusly knocking their team mate out of the playoffs?

Blaney is leading, Logano or Cindric is behind, last lap. Same question.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Scenario:

Watkins Glen or Daytona

Truex is leading, Hamlin or Busch or Bell is behind, last lap. Do they push it and try to win, thusly knocking their team mate out of the playoffs?

Blaney is leading, Logano or Cindric is behind, last lap. Same question.

They definitely should, but they probably won’t l. Another reason the playoffs are dumb

 

[Fish]

Anyone remember a similar scenario?

I know I've seen people block for their teammates, Elliott probably cost Harvick a win at Bristol and Elliott was a lap down.
Dale pushing Waltrip and Jr in his cars at Daytona the day he died.
Teams saying Need A Caution in code to help a teammate years back.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Scenario:

Watkins Glen or Daytona

Truex is leading, Hamlin or Busch or Bell is behind, last lap. Do they push it and try to win, thusly knocking their team mate out of the playoffs?

Blaney is leading, Logano or Cindric is behind, last lap. Same question.

But the more likely scenario at Daytona is Blaney is leading, Logano tries to help him, but ends up wrecking him along with half the field instead because that’s what Penske drivers do at plate tracks

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Anyone remember a similar scenario?

I know I've seen people block for their teammates, Elliott probably cost Harvick a win at Bristol and Elliott was a lap down.
Dale pushing Waltrip and Jr in his cars at Daytona the day he died.
Teams saying Need A Caution in code to help a teammate years back.

There was a truck series championship several years ago when they still ran the season long format where a driver’s teammate passed him(not for the lead) and wouldn’t give it back, and that cost the driver that got passed the championship in the last race of th le season