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Deep Creek said:
The B1G is 3-7 in CFP history with all three of those wins coming from Ohio State....and two of them in year 1 of the CFP. Not exactly a stellar "performance" IMO. ACC has "performed" a hell of a lot better in the CFP than the B1G...even if it is all Clem but one loss. Cold hard truth is the SEC is the ONLY conference that has "performed" well in the CFP.
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I would argue the ACC has done well considering. The issue is that in the future with the portal, NIL, 2 dominant conferences the talent more than likely will flow to the B1G and SEC and the playoff won't be competitive. It might take a decade or it might be half of that before it doesn't make any real sense to include other conferences and the P2 will be hungry for a money grab.

Basically, both could field a 4 team conference playoff with a champion and then have the champions play each other for the trophy. That would be an 8 team playoff with 4 games and they don't have to share the revenue.
 
Dang, looks too late. Some other loser thread here is reporting that the B1G is already in talks to add the Ducks and Huskies
 
Wild Turkey said:
News keeps coming out fast.

"The Arizona Board of Regents are set to meet about the conference futures of Arizona and Arizona State, but an opinion has emerged ahead of the discussion.

Tenor changed Wednesday at Arizona State in a matter of 4 hours. ASU President Michael Crow was content with the Pac-12 media rights deal with Apple. But by 2 p.m., talk changed and a board meeting was being discussed for Thursday, Brandon Marcello of 247Sports reported. The undercurrent steering ships: Board wants Arizona and ASU to stick together."
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Hu War Yu said:
What The Wtf GIF by Justin
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I think saw something that Michael Crowe was a big supporter of Larry Scott. If that doesn’t show he’s an idiot, I don’t know what does.
 
Hu War Yu said:
Dang, looks too late. Some other loser thread here is reporting that the B1G is already in talks to add the Ducks and Huskies
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B1G slumming in the duck pond

Michael Scott Grimace GIF
 
Wild Turkey said:
I would argue the ACC has done well considering. The issue is that in the future with the portal, NIL, 2 dominant conferences the talent more than likely will flow to the B1G and SEC and the playoff won't be competitive. It might take a decade or it might be half of that before it doesn't make any real sense to include other conferences and the P2 will be hungry for a money grab.

Basically, both could field a 4 team conference playoff with a champion and then have the champions play each other for the trophy. That would be an 8 team playoff with 4 games and they don't have to share the revenue.
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You think the B1G will "perform" better in this format? They haven't performed to well in the other format.
 
duckboy33 said:
I don't think that's accurate. The 2024-2025 media payout will be north of 60M per team, right?
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Yeah, just north of that. I think what I'm doing is taking 60% off that figure. Instead of them getting 60% of that figure. The $25m would be 40% of what they are getting. Just misinterpreted it.
 
ericd7633 said:
Yeah, there is more upside for sure, and starting at that new deal, they will get more. But the more teams, the more those networks have to pony up. I wouldn't expect to see the jump we saw with the last deal.
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They'll pony up for a better selection of top games.

Oregon was (10-3) and Washington was (11-2) last season.

Oregon beat North Carolina in the Holiday Bowl.
Washington beat mighty tejas in the Alamo Bowl.

Oregon was 12th in average viewership and Washington was 34th.
Playing a Big 10 schedule is sure to bring more eyeballs to TV's due to Big 10 country being more passionate about CFB than the left coast. Washington should see the biggest jump in average viewership. Top 25 IMO. Heck Oklahoma was just 23rd.

I agree the next round of media rights won't likely be as big a jump as the last round, but it'll be plenty to justify Oregon/Washington if those teams stay consistent competitively.
 
Red_Alert said:
They'll pony up for a better selection of top games.

Oregon was (10-3) and Washington was (11-2) last season.

Oregon beat North Carolina in the Holiday Bowl.
Washington beat mighty tejas in the Alamo Bowl.

Oregon was 12th in average viewership and Washington was 34th.
Playing a Big 10 schedule is sure to bring more eyeballs to TV's due to Big 10 country being more passionate about CFB than the left coast. Washington should see the biggest jump in average viewership. Top 25 IMO. Heck Oklahoma was just 23rd.

I agree the next round of media rights won't likely be as big a jump as the last round, but it'll be plenty to justify Oregon/Washington if those teams stay consistent competitively.
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If Oregon/UW join, somebody of PSU, OSU, Michigan, USC, Oregon and Washington is going to have to finish 6th. And that's not including if teams like Nebraska, UCLA and Wisconsin rise up some. I have no clue how scheduling would work, but out of those programs, someone has to lose 4/5 games a season.
 
Red_Alert said:
They'll pony up for a better selection of top games.

Oregon was (10-3) and Washington was (11-2) last season.

Oregon beat North Carolina in the Holiday Bowl.
Washington beat mighty tejas in the Alamo Bowl.

Oregon was 12th in average viewership and Washington was 34th.
Playing a Big 10 schedule is sure to bring more eyeballs to TV's due to Big 10 country being more passionate about CFB than the left coast. Washington should see the biggest jump in average viewership. Top 25 IMO. Heck Oklahoma was just 23rd.

I agree the next round of media rights won't likely be as big a jump as the last round, but it'll be plenty to justify Oregon/Washington if those teams stay consistent competitively.
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The question on the next round is will the SEC be able to get the same money with fewer teams to split up the pie? With the additions the B1G will probably be equal to the SEC in 4mm plus games being viewed (which is what the networks are really buying) and where the value is.

We could see the B1G and SEC getting equal money next go around but the SEC getting more per school. Especially if they add 4 more teams which is absolutely insane. Cal and Stanford don't move the needle and while it's not Maryland and Rutgers bad it's not much better.
 
Red_Alert said:
They'll pony up for a better selection of top games.

Oregon was (10-3) and Washington was (11-2) last season.

Oregon beat North Carolina in the Holiday Bowl.
Washington beat mighty tejas in the Alamo Bowl.

Oregon was 12th in average viewership and Washington was 34th.
Playing a Big 10 schedule is sure to bring more eyeballs to TV's due to Big 10 country being more passionate about CFB than the left coast. Washington should see the biggest jump in average viewership. Top 25 IMO. Heck Oklahoma was just 23rd.

I agree the next round of media rights won't likely be as big a jump as the last round, but it'll be plenty to justify Oregon/Washington if those teams stay consistent competitively.
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Yeah, I don't think a conference with Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Oregon, UCLA, USC and Washington is worried about getting top dollar for their tier 1 content.
 
College football viewership by conference thru # 35...

Big 10 (13 Teams)

1) Ohio St
3) Michigan
9) Penn St
14) USC (Next Season)
16) Nebraska
17) Michigan St.
19) Maryland
25) UCLA (Next Season)
26) Wisconsin
27) Iowa
31) Indiana
32) Illinois
35) Northwestern

(12) Oregon and (34) Washington ?????????

SEC (12 Teams)

2) Alabama
4) Tennessee
5) Georgia
7) LSU
8) tejas (Next Season)
11) Florida
18) Texas A&M
20) Auburn
21) Arkansas
22) Mississippi
23) Oklahoma (Next Season)
28) Kentucky

Big 12

13) TCU
24) Oklahoma St.
29) Baylor
30) Kansas St.

ACC

10) Clemson
15) Florida St.

PAC 12

12) Oregon (Potential to Big 10)
33) Utah
34) Washington (Potential to Big 10)

Independent

6) Notre Dame (the Crown Jewel)

 
ericd7633 said:
If Oregon/UW join, somebody of PSU, OSU, Michigan, USC, Oregon and Washington is going to have to finish 6th. And that's not including if teams like Nebraska, UCLA and Wisconsin rise up some. I have no clue how scheduling would work, but out of those programs, someone has to lose 4/5 games a season.
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And the cream will rise to the top.

This is about Average Viewership. A better selection of top games for FOX, CBS, and NBC.
Better games = More eyeballs = More advertising revenue = Bigger payouts.

The lesser teams will generally get relegated to BTN, FS1, etc.
 
Wild Turkey said:
The question on the next round is will the SEC be able to get the same money with fewer teams to split up the pie? With the additions the B1G will probably be equal to the SEC in 4mm plus games being viewed (which is what the networks are really buying) and where the value is.

We could see the B1G and SEC getting equal money next go around but the SEC getting more per school. Especially if they add 4 more teams which is absolutely insane. Cal and Stanford don't move the needle and while it's not Maryland and Rutgers bad it's not much better.
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The SEC will get equal revenue if not more.

The reason is..... If you take just the top 20 in 'viewership' they have 8 teams compared to the Big 10 having 7.
Oklahoma is sure to rise into the top 20 which would give the SEC 9.

I don't see (45) Cal or (47) Stanford in the Big 10. They don't have the viewership.

Viewership and Bluebloods are the driving force here.

Washington at (34)?? Meh. They'll likely be mid 20's after joining the Big 10. Who would you rather watch?
(34) Washington
(35) Northwestern
 
Keep in mind these media rights contracts are fluid.

The more peeps tuning in, the higher payouts to the conference from the networks.

We know this for 2 reasons.....

1) Everybody got less money than expected in the Covid year. That's because of cancellations.
2) If the media rights deals were a solid/unwavering payout, then we wouldn't have to look up revenue distributions after every season. It's always different.
The contracts are based on "projections", but the actual payouts are based on viewership.
 
Red_Alert said:
College football viewership by conference thru # 35...

Big 10 (13 Teams)

1) Ohio St
3) Michigan
9) Penn St
14) USC (Next Season)
16) Nebraska
17) Michigan St.
19) Maryland
25) UCLA (Next Season)
26) Wisconsin
27) Iowa
31) Indiana
32) Illinois
35) Northwestern

(12) Oregon and (34) Washington ?????????

SEC (12 Teams)

2) Alabama
4) Tennessee
5) Georgia
7) LSU
8) tejas (Next Season)
11) Florida
18) Texas A&M
20) Auburn
21) Arkansas
22) Mississippi
23) Oklahoma (Next Season)
28) Kentucky

Big 12

13) TCU
24) Oklahoma St.
29) Baylor
30) Kansas St.

ACC

10) Clemson
15) Florida St.

PAC 12

12) Oregon (Potential to Big 10)
33) Utah
34) Washington (Potential to Big 10)

Independent

6) Notre Dame (the Crown Jewel)

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Pac numbers are a little off as Pac 12 Network doesnt disclose ratings. then again its the Pac 12 network so i wouldnt assume any kind of big difference.
 
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