Alec Baldwin killed crew member Halyna Hutchins on set of Rust

ELTEXAN said:
You’ve patronized hundreds of movies where they do that purposefully, as a matter of course.
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I have also read the safety protocols required to do so. It's the same protocols he used in dozens of movies. They were not followed.
 
batchaps4me said:
I have also read the safety protocols required to do so. It's the same protocols he used in dozens of movies. They were not followed.
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Pointing guns at each other and at the camera and behind he camera and pulling triggers happens within the protocols of hundreds of movies you have personally patronized
 
calsnowskier said:
I would normally come back with “but it is a movie, that is what is supposed to happen”, but the fact that there is no recording of the actual shot pretty much nullifies that argument. He shot the gun when there was no filming taking place.
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Yeah, there were witnesses. Including both of the victims
calsnowskier said:
I still am of the opinion that Baldwin the “actor” doesn’t have MUCH responsibility, but Baldwin the “producer” has a LOT. Especially when it has been shown that he was acting very intimidating towards the crew while on set (very much blurring the line between Baldwin the “actor” and Baldwin the “producer”).
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Hiring the dumbfuck armorer and his subsequent lies about never pulling the trigger, figure prominently in his liability. Also, actors may get a partial pass on firearms safety, but everyone involved in production has a shared responsibility to see that the guns are used safely.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Pointing guns at each other and at the camera and behind he camera and pulling triggers happens within the protocols of hundreds of movies you have personally patronized
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Yes, and there are specific protocols in place for that. They include verifying that the gun is empty or correctly loaded. Did Alec verify the gun was empty like he did on every other movie?
 
batchaps4me said:
Yes, and there are specific protocols in place for that. They include verifying that the gun is empty or correctly loaded. Did Alec verify the gun was empty like he did on every other movie?
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Actors don’t mess with ammo. And you know it. Dunce.
 
batchaps4me said:
Anyone that uses a gun should be able to, hence the negligence. Dunce.
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Actors don’t fiddle with the ammo. And you don’t want them to.
God you’re dumb
 
ELTEXAN said:
Actors don’t fiddle with the ammo. And you don’t want them to.
God you’re dumb
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I am not stupid enough to waive responsibility for anyone that handles a firearm. Especially when they point a loaded gun at another person and pull the trigger for fun. But you do you.
 
batchaps4me said:
I am not stupid enough to waive responsibility for anyone that handles a firearm. Especially when they point a loaded gun at another person and pull the trigger for fun. But you do you.
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You’ve patronized hundreds of movies where they do exactly that as a matter of course.
 
ELTEXAN said:
You’ve patronized hundreds of movies where they do exactly that as a matter of course.
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And they do it in a safe, non negligent way. Oh, they do things like verify the weapon is unloaded by three layers, the armorer, director/assistant, and the actor all verify the condition of the gun. They do things like inspecting the chamber and test firing "empty" guns for verification. You know, what a non negligent person with any firearms safety training would do.
 
batchaps4me said:
And they do it in a safe, non negligent way. Oh, they do things like verify the weapon is unloaded by three layers, the armorer, director/assistant, and the actor all verify the condition of the gun. They do things like inspecting the chamber and test firing "empty" guns for verification. You know, what a non negligent person with any firearms safety training would do.
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Lies. The actor does not fiddle with the ammo. You’re now into straight lying territory.
Plus you just admitted they break the basic rules of gun safety… something you were admonishing before even when it comes to movie sets.
You’re all wet. Time to quit while you’re way behind, dunce.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Actors don’t mess with ammo. And you know it. Dunce.
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Anyone with a gun has no excuse. Period. He hired the person you claim is responsilble. He owns the company making the film. He shot and killed a person.

Hire better people if you are too stupid to check the weapon before shooting someone with it.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Lies. The actor does not fiddle with the ammo.
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The time to start fiddling was before he killed someone. I bet he fiddles with ammo the next time. Or do you think he can just go killing people as long as he wants.
 
ELTEXAN said:
You’ve patronized hundreds of movies where they do exactly that as a matter of course.
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Nobody was killed either. Those are examples of how a movie is created properly and without injury. Baldwins incompetence is not an excuse that keeps him from prison.
 
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