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You are correct. I was impressed by Rattler last night. He is not why the Sooners lost the game.
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Depends still a lot of football left. Osu has had the easiest schedule and OU has had the hardest. Probably at least one 2 loss team in the championship game. Winner of RRSO this weekend will still probably be there but Osu always beats Texas and OU always beats Osu. Texas still has KSU and ISU to play as well.
20 years is enough time for me to care “that much”...just like the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago, I quit planning my day around when kickoff was and would still watch on occasion but really scaled back my interest overall.
I’m there now with OU.
I gave myself a headache, watching that defense last night, from being so goddamn frustrated I could just spit.
No more.
I’m there now with OU.
I gave myself a headache, watching that defense last night, from being so goddamn frustrated I could just spit.
No more.
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Texas is next with these players on their team. Any predictions?
TE 6'7" 250
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TE 6'4" 252
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WR 6'4" 200
TE 6'6" 260
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WR 6'3" 220
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TE 6'7" 250
WR 6'4" 230
WR 6'3" 220
TE 6'7" 254
TE 6'4" 252
WR6'2" 196
WR 6'4" 200
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I want to hear other peoples' opinion on something. Since OU's season is shot in the ass anyway, I'm strongly in favor of benching the older under-achievers and start playing the bigger, taller young guys in the defensive secondary. Why not give them some experience in order to build a foundation for coming back stronger next year with a D that might actually stop someone? Yeah, we might lose an additional game or two if we did this but look at the upside potential. Just trying the same old thing over and over hasn't worked for years. This is 2020 so fuck this year anyway. I actually think the fans would give Grinch the benefit of the doubt if he would do it. The guys playing now had their chance and didn't produce.
AMES, Iowa — Pat Fields seemed stunned as he struggled to explain OU’s latest disappointment, a 37-30 loss to Iowa State on Saturday night.
“At the end of the day, it’s difficult,” Fields said, talking about either playing safety, playing quality defense in the Big 12, or dealing with a second-consecutive loss or all of the above. “You think about how much you invest into this game — playing through a pandemic, working out with masks on being at school from six in the morning to eight at night.
“Sometimes you feel like you love the game so much, but the game don’t love you back.”
All Sooners had rough nights at Jack Trice Stadium, but the defensive backs struggled the most.
Fields, Brendan Radley-Hiles and Tre Brown have started a combined 70 games over the last three years, playing in 97.
But against the Cyclones, the trio all stood out for the problems they exposed in OU’s defense.
Fields dropped a pair of potential interceptions, either of which could’ve helped to turn the tide the Sooners’ way. He was also flagged for holding.
Radley-Hiles was flagged twice for pass interference and once for a personal foul. He also missed several tackles.
Brown was called for a pass interference and a holding.
All of Oklahoma defense’s penalties in the game were called against defensive backs and Fields said the explanation was simple, especially going against Cyclones’ big tight end Charlie Kolar, a Norman native.
“Playing DB, there really isn’t an alternative,” Fields said of the rash of penalties. “You’re guarding guys who are 6-5, 6-6. If we’re not physical, it’s probably going to be a catch. Sometimes it just comes with the game. You’ve got to chalk it up to the game. That’s part of playing defensive back.”
Not every team the Sooners face the rest of the way have a player like Kolar, but it was still a startling admission.
Tackling can be refined. Positioning can be worked on. Players aren’t going to grow in size during the season.
Fields is the tallest of OU’s starting defensive backfield at 5-foot-11, Brown is 5-foot-10 and Radley-Hiles even an inch shorter. The other two starting DBs are 5-10.
Since Alex Grinch came aboard as defensive coordinator before the 2019 season, the Sooners have recruited bigger defensive backs, but none of them have seen much of the field so far.
Junior college transfer Justin Harrington is 6-foot-3, freshman cornerback Joshua Eaton and freshman safety Bryson Washington are each 6-2.
“We have some depth,” Grinch said. “We’ll continue to explore that depth, no question.”
Harrington is hurt, but Washington has yet to make an appearance for OU and Eaton hasn’t played since the season opener against Missouri State.
Both let their frustration percolate onto social media after the game when Washington posted “Free BWash and JEaton” on Twitter after the game, tagging Eaton’s account.
Washington later deleted the tweet, but it showed the toll losing and struggled can take on a group.
“Disappointed … especially with guys who we have seen make those plays in the past,” Grinch said. “Whether that’s experience guys from a year ago or guys as you go through call camp, first couple of games. I think it’s just the consistency aspect of things that we’re not finding right now.”
OU football: Iowa State loss shows that Alex Grinch and the Sooners' defense have a tall task awaiting them
Daily Oklahoman October 5, 2020AMES, Iowa — Pat Fields seemed stunned as he struggled to explain OU’s latest disappointment, a 37-30 loss to Iowa State on Saturday night.
“At the end of the day, it’s difficult,” Fields said, talking about either playing safety, playing quality defense in the Big 12, or dealing with a second-consecutive loss or all of the above. “You think about how much you invest into this game — playing through a pandemic, working out with masks on being at school from six in the morning to eight at night.
“Sometimes you feel like you love the game so much, but the game don’t love you back.”
All Sooners had rough nights at Jack Trice Stadium, but the defensive backs struggled the most.
Fields, Brendan Radley-Hiles and Tre Brown have started a combined 70 games over the last three years, playing in 97.
But against the Cyclones, the trio all stood out for the problems they exposed in OU’s defense.
Fields dropped a pair of potential interceptions, either of which could’ve helped to turn the tide the Sooners’ way. He was also flagged for holding.
Radley-Hiles was flagged twice for pass interference and once for a personal foul. He also missed several tackles.
Brown was called for a pass interference and a holding.
All of Oklahoma defense’s penalties in the game were called against defensive backs and Fields said the explanation was simple, especially going against Cyclones’ big tight end Charlie Kolar, a Norman native.
“Playing DB, there really isn’t an alternative,” Fields said of the rash of penalties. “You’re guarding guys who are 6-5, 6-6. If we’re not physical, it’s probably going to be a catch. Sometimes it just comes with the game. You’ve got to chalk it up to the game. That’s part of playing defensive back.”
Not every team the Sooners face the rest of the way have a player like Kolar, but it was still a startling admission.
Tackling can be refined. Positioning can be worked on. Players aren’t going to grow in size during the season.
Fields is the tallest of OU’s starting defensive backfield at 5-foot-11, Brown is 5-foot-10 and Radley-Hiles even an inch shorter. The other two starting DBs are 5-10.
Since Alex Grinch came aboard as defensive coordinator before the 2019 season, the Sooners have recruited bigger defensive backs, but none of them have seen much of the field so far.
Junior college transfer Justin Harrington is 6-foot-3, freshman cornerback Joshua Eaton and freshman safety Bryson Washington are each 6-2.
“We have some depth,” Grinch said. “We’ll continue to explore that depth, no question.”
Harrington is hurt, but Washington has yet to make an appearance for OU and Eaton hasn’t played since the season opener against Missouri State.
Both let their frustration percolate onto social media after the game when Washington posted “Free BWash and JEaton” on Twitter after the game, tagging Eaton’s account.
Washington later deleted the tweet, but it showed the toll losing and struggled can take on a group.
“Disappointed … especially with guys who we have seen make those plays in the past,” Grinch said. “Whether that’s experience guys from a year ago or guys as you go through call camp, first couple of games. I think it’s just the consistency aspect of things that we’re not finding right now.”
And also if Tech hadn't of lost their offensive and defensive leaders in the 1st half (and hadn't turned shit for brains on one play in the 2nd half against K-State) they'd be 2-0 in the conference right now. They were absolutely whipping K-State in the 2nd half. Don't see Tech teams "whip" very often.Can you imagine if Tech could have handled an onside kick?
Ole Tejas would be 0-2 in conference and we could all laugh hard at @Thiefery prediction of a Tejas longhorn B12 championship.
Instead, we’ll have to wait....
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jeffers was kicked out for targetting -
k state ahould have had three players
disqualified for targetting -
even the "rules expert" agreed on two of them -
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Oddly enough I’ve seen (on tv) Tech whip my boys twice. Embarrassingly Bad Whip I mean. (2012 and 2019)
It would have been awesome to see Tech beat Austin though.....
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What's hurting ou (from a hated outside view), is that they don't have any leaders. I have no idea who is the guy on defense that gets everyone in line. Texas has the same issue on defense, because the leader is it's NT in Coburn.. who's great and all but it needs Caden Sterns to really stand out.. he's the one that can diagnose everything..Coburn can't do that as he lines up shading the Center/Guard.
On offense, I think ou really misses Sermon.. he most likely would have emerged as a captain.
Big12 may very well be a shitshow, but I'm here for it. It's still football and we still are playing.
On offense, I think ou really misses Sermon.. he most likely would have emerged as a captain.
Big12 may very well be a shitshow, but I'm here for it. It's still football and we still are playing.
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most disappointing finish
i've ever seen,
and i've been watching tech
since the 80s -
Gonna be a lot more
ers before this is done IMO. COVID, 2020, shitty play and parity are going to cause a lot of 'em...me thinks.These ratings give odds that a Texas vs Okie Lite CCG, could very well happen. Odds ain't too bad that neither make the CCG. Any one or two through six could make it, though Baylor and WVU are going to have to do it defensively only. Opposite for OU. Hell, even Tech could piss in one of the top 8s Post Toasties. And Kansas always gives TCU hell. Horny Toads have a recent history of making the Jayhawks look tough.
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Its Ronnie Perkins on defense but he has been suspended all year. Should get him back in a week or two along with Trejon Bridges and Rhamonde Stevenson.
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Man these refs are HORRIBLE. How does a targeting call get declined but the player still gets ejected.. because the team rather enforce a holding call??
I know the refs are having a bad start because they too did not have a stable schedule this off season, and summer.. but some of these things are just mindblowing dumb.
Heard that the Big12 is keeping refs close to home as possible.. so they will get mixed depending on who plays where every week.