TV Series Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon

BusSport said:
Bloodmoon. It was set about ten thousand years before the original Game of Thrones.

Something I've said before: I am so glad they decided to proceed with House of the Dragon instead of Bloodmoon. The problem with Bloodmoon is that it's not based on any actual George R. R. Martin book, but instead just on scattered references throughout the books to myths of the Long Night, so we would have ended up with the same shitty fanfiction from TV writers that season 8 was.

At least with House of the Dragon, we get a story based on an actual George R. R. Martin book, even if the details of the story in that book are rather sparse (due to the book being a historical reference that covers over a century rather than in-depth novels covering a few years the way the main aSoIaF series is).
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I wouldn't have a problem with a good show runner doing something from this universe that is largely based on their own story telling.

IMO, Benioff and Weiss had 2 major problems, or maybe even 3 depend on how you look at it.

1. George Martin had initially committed to finishing the books before the show. In retrospect this was pure folly. So this put them in a bit of a lerch in that, while they knew the end of the story, they did NOT know how the subplots played out. So they kinda had to fill in the blanks. That was ALWAYS going to be tricky to do and this led to them not giving those subplots enough attention.

2. B&W had signed on to do a Star Wars movie and a new HBO series. They wanted to get started with those so they just rushed the ending. And they rushed it for no reason because both the new Star Wars movies and the new HBO show were shelved.

3. No matter what they did, a lot of fans were NEVER going to like how that story ended.

I don't think that means that other writers, freed from some of the expectations couldn't do some really interesting work within this universe.
 
Variety has some more casting news. Summary of the cast so far:

- Paddy Considine as Viserys I Targaryen (not to be confused with Daenerys's brother Viserys from the first season of the original GoT series, who would more precisely be Viserys III)
- Olivia Cooke as Alicent Hightower
- Emma D'Arcy as Rhaenyra Targaryen
- Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen
 
BusSport said:
Variety has some more casting news. Summary of the cast so far:

- Paddy Considine as Viserys I Targaryen (not to be confused with Daenerys's brother Viserys from the first season of the original GoT series, who would more precisely be Viserys III)
- Olivia Cooke as Alicent Hightower
- Emma D'Arcy as Rhaenyra Targaryen
- Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen
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Matt Smith? Doctor Who?
 
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New logo, lit on fire:

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BusSport said:
Variety has some more casting news. Summary of the cast so far:

- Paddy Considine as Viserys I Targaryen (not to be confused with Daenerys's brother Viserys from the first season of the original GoT series, who would more precisely be Viserys III)
- Olivia Cooke as Alicent Hightower
- Emma D'Arcy as Rhaenyra Targaryen
- Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen
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More casting news from Variety:

- Steve Toussaint as Corlys Velaryon, the Sea Snake
- Rhys Ifans as Otto Hightower, Hand of the King
- Eve Best as Rhaenys Targaryen, the Queen Who Never Was
- Sonoya Mizuno as Mysaria, Lady Misery, the White Worm
 
Doesn't the House of Dragons book take place over 300 years? Does that mean we are likely headed towards time jumps and new cast season to season?
 
RememberTheKoy said:
Doesn't the House of Dragons book take place over 300 years? Does that mean we are likely headed towards time jumps and new cast season to season?
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No: The book Fire & Blood and its upcoming sequel together do take place over 300 years. However, the TV series House of the Dragon is ONLY covering the Dance of the Dragons civil war and the immediate events leading up to it, which is together only a few years.
 
BusSport said:
No: The book Fire & Blood and its upcoming sequel together do take place over 300 years. However, the TV series House of the Dragon is ONLY covering the Dance of the Dragons civil war and the immediate events leading up to it, which is together only a few years.
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I read that they are also developing a series based on Robert's Rebellion. I hope they start it around the time Jaime was Knighted. I'd be down to see some Arthur Dayne vs The Smiling Knight Action...
 
I could swear there was a point where the url for this was simply just "isthewindsofwinteroutyet.com."

Nevertheless, now that I found it again, it's even funnier now than it was then, at least to me.

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Is Winds of Winter Out Yet?

Is Winds of Winter Out Yet?
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ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
I could swear there was a point where the url for this was simply just "isthewindsofwinteroutyet.com."

Nevertheless, now that I found it again, it's even funnier now than it was then, at least to me.

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Is Winds of Winter Out Yet?

Is Winds of Winter Out Yet?
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Omergawd the full geek version of Cali will be loosened upon the world.
 
Kburjr said:
Omergawd the full geek version of Cali will be loosened upon the world.
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You mean when The Winds of Winter is finally released?
At this point, while, sure, I'll read it, at least eventually, I don't care much anymore.
Even when I cared more, I thought a couple of the sample chapters I read sucked, like, really badly, so ...
 
ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
You mean when The Winds of Winter is finally released?
At this point, while, sure, I'll read it, at least eventually, I don't care much anymore.
Even when I cared more, I thought a couple of the sample chapters I read sucked, like, really badly, so ...
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Just fondly remembering your fandom for the show...
 
ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
You mean when The Winds of Winter is finally released?
At this point, while, sure, I'll read it, at least eventually, I don't care much anymore.
Even when I cared more, I thought a couple of the sample chapters I read sucked, like, really badly, so ...
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I found an used copy of Game of Thrones. It is nestled in my "to read" stack.
 
Kburjr said:
Just fondly remembering your fandom for the show...
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Yeah, that thread was pretty fun, and I definitely enjoyed the show.

Kburjr said:
I found an used copy of Game of Thrones. It is nestled in my "to read" stack.
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If you like the first, the second and third are good, as well.
I'm not as much of a fan of the 4th and 5th.
 
ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
Yeah, that thread was pretty fun, and I definitely enjoyed the show.



If you like the first, the second and third are good, as well.
I'm not as much of a fan of the 4th and 5th.
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Working my way through the audio books over the last 2-3 years now. 3rd book is easily the best and 4th book easily the worst. Only parts of the 4th book that were any worthwhile were the Cersi and Jamie chapters. 5th book I am enjoying quite a bit and about halfway through. The Young Griff stuff really adds a lot to it as does having more interesting characters to hop back too.
 
BusSport said:
More casting news from Variety:

- Steve Toussaint as Corlys Velaryon, the Sea Snake
- Rhys Ifans as Otto Hightower, Hand of the King
- Eve Best as Rhaenys Targaryen, the Queen Who Never Was
- Sonoya Mizuno as Mysaria, Lady Misery, the White Worm
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Another casting:

- Fabien Frankel as Criston Cole, the Kingmaker
 
First promo photos released!

First, Rhaenyra Targaryen (Emma D'Arcy) and Daemon Targaryen (Matt Smith):

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