Guess the CFP Top 25

OlyDuck said:
What you think, what I think, what occupant thinks, what hammer thinks what day man thinks what droider thinks and so on would deviate so a committee with condaleeza rice may have a different feel and opinions than one with tyrone willingham
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Hold on what does @droider think?

That dude has sources.
 
Deep Creek said:
So 11-1 can get you in if you have the right name on the jersey.
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It depends on what the rest of the field does. Ohio State went 12-1 in 2018 and got left out. The name on their jersey didn't save them.

I never claimed 11-1 keeps you out. I pointed out how the irony about favoritism towards brand name schools, when the only 12-1 P5 champ to ever be left out was Ohio State, one of the biggest brands in the sport.
 
ericd7633 said:
I don't think Cincy is getting a ton love for the win against ND.
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Cincy is ranked above OU and WF.

Both OU and WF are undefeated and have wins over AT LEAST five P5 schools.
Cincy has beaten two P5 schools.

I honestly can't think of another reason you could offer that would substantiate being ranked above OU/WF.
 
Shanemansj13 said:
So I'm not sure why people are complaining about the rankings especially in the first week. If UGA and Ohio St played today, Ohio St would get skulldragged
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I'm not so sure about that. I think your bucknuts would be in the game throughout...unless they turned the ball over a lot.
 
occupant said:
Cincy is ranked above OU and WF.

Both OU and WF are undefeated and have wins over AT LEAST five P5 schools.
Cincy has beaten two P5 schools.

I honestly can't think of another reason you could offer that would substantiate being ranked above OU/WF.
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Win out and I believe Oklahoma and/or Wake Forest are in ... one loss torpedoes their chances. You shouldn't deny an undefeated P5 Team.
 
occupant said:
Cincy is ranked above OU and WF.

Both OU and WF are undefeated and have wins over AT LEAST five P5 schools.
Cincy has beaten two P5 schools.

I honestly can't think of another reason you could offer that would substantiate being ranked above OU/WF.
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Honestly, OU is the one that's getting screwed because of style points. Wake Forest, despite the P5 label, doesn't really have a tougher schedule than Cincinnati right now.
 
duckboy33 said:
It depends on what the rest of the field does. Ohio State went 12-1 in 2018 and got left out. The name on their jersey didn't save them.

I never claimed 11-1 keeps you out. I pointed out how the irony about favoritism towards brand name schools, when the only 12-1 P5 champ to ever be left out was Ohio State, one of the biggest brands in the sport.
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That knife cuts both ways and Ohio State HAS benefited from it. And if you think committee members don't take the names on jerseys into consideration when two teams are equal, then I've got some ocean front property in El Paso I'll sell you. And there are 1,000 ways to justify it as long as criteria shift i.e. the 13th data point made a difference in 2014 according to the committee but not in subsequent years when it benefited Bama and Ohio State. Flannigan's Finagling Factor.

Can't blame the committee though. That is what we wanted...humans to be able to look at things besides just what a computer program spit out like the BCS. We wanted a fudge factor allowed. We got it.
 
Deep Creek said:
That knife cuts both ways and Ohio State HAS benefited from it. And if you think committee members don't take the names on jerseys into consideration when two teams are equal, then I've got some ocean front property in El Paso I'll sell you. And there are 1,000 ways to justify it as long as criteria shift i.e. the 13th data point made a difference in 2014 according to the committee but not in subsequent years when it benefited Bama and Ohio State. Flannigan's Finagling Factor.

Can't blame the committee though. That is what we wanted...humans to be able to look at things besides just what a computer program spit out like the BCS. We wanted a fudge factor allowed. We got it.
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Comparing apples to oranges. Every season has a different set of circumstances. What season exactly were Ohio State and Alabama bailed out by the names on their Jersey? Who should have made it instead?
 
I just hope Georgia blows the doors off Alabama if they play, preferably in the CCG.
 
Voltaire said:
Win out and I believe Oklahoma and/or Wake Forest are in ... one loss torpedoes their chances. You shouldn't deny an undefeated P5 Team.
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And therefore the first selections should reflect that NOW. Not some Scenario Village.
 
duckboy33 said:
Comparing apples to oranges. Every season has a different set of circumstances. What season exactly were Ohio State and Alabama bailed out by the names on their Jersey? Who should have made it instead?
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And I acknowledged such as I stated below. That how it was designed. Strict criteria that HAD to be followed wasn't the desire. They wanted wiggle room to allow for circumstances. And where do you think that wiggle room is used?

"Can't blame the committee though. That is what we wanted...humans to be able to look at things besides just what a computer program spit out like the BCS. We wanted a fudge factor allowed. We got it."
 
Deep Creek said:
And I acknowledged such as I stated below. That how it was designed. Strict criteria that HAD to be followed wasn't the desire. They wanted wiggle room to allow for circumstances. And where do you think that wiggle room is used?

"Can't blame the committee though. That is what we wanted...humans to be able to look at things besides just what a computer program spit out like the BCS. We wanted a fudge factor allowed. We got it."
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Ahh so just vague generalities. Nothing specific to complain about
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
They weren't 12-1.
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Neither were Ohio State in 2016 or Alabama in 2017. One got whipped 31-0 in the semi and the other one won a natty without playing in their CCG. Two extremes. Spewing the 13th data point justification doesn't hold water IMHO. Just say we felt Team X is better and leave it at that.
 
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