More Michigan Cheating

Red_Alert said:
What Michigan did is quite possibly worse.

It separately impacted multiple individual games in their own way. Each incidence is likely to be viewed as it's own infraction.
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lol. k.

Level 2 infractions here we come!
 
It almost makes me want to take pity seeing desperate fans perform Olympic Level Gymnastics

A ‘Michigan Man‘ would never cheat!
 
Sgt Brutus said:
It almost makes me want to take pity seeing desperate fans perform Olympic Level Gymnastics

A ‘Michigan Man‘ would never cheat!
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Olympic Level Gymnastics is ironically also how your football team is performing as well.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
The regulations on boosters in the NCAA Rulebook are almost exclusively applied to recruiting. They are not actually in any way connected to the scouting rules. #1. And #2, in order to be a booster there are a set list of like 5 items you would need to meet to be considered one. And just asking friends to go to games to record them would not qualify you as an athletics booster under the NCAA's own definition.

The money is also irrelevant. there's no NCAA rule against buying tickets for people or giving money to people to buy tickets for people.
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I was about to say you are dumb, but what it is is that you so badly don't want this to be true that you aren't being rational. You're not dumb, you are simply being irrational. This is one of the most irrational of your responses.

You can't ask friends to do something for you that is illegal and then say you have no culpability. I am not sure how you don't get that.
 
Sgt Brutus said:
It almost makes me want to take pity seeing desperate fans perform Olympic Level Gymnastics

A ‘Michigan Man‘ would never cheat!
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For fucking ever they've been so snobish about acting like that Michigan is "above what everyone else does" and lives by a code of honor and integrity.

Now it's "WELL EVERYONE DOES IT!" lmao.
 
Red_Alert said:
That is your homeristic hope.
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lol. No, but what is homeristic is suggesting the most punishments that the NCAA has ever come down with will happen because of some dudes in stands with iphones.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I was about to say you are dumb, but what it is is that you so badly don't want this to be true that you aren't being rational. You're not dumb, you are simply being irrational. This is one of the most irrational of your responses.

You can't ask friends to do something for you that is illegal and then say you have no culpability. I am not sure how you don't get that.
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You can do whatever the rules say you can do, and you can't do whatever the rules say you can't do. It may be in volition of the principle of the rule, but unless the NCAA has specifically prohibited something (or included it in a definition of an acting qualifier) then it's legal. Which is why I think Michigan is operating in a perceived grey area. You can agree or not and that's where it will stay until the NCAA rules on it. The NCAA bans institutional staff members from scouting games in person. If there's a definition that defines someone as such because they're asked to perform a task for a staff member, then so be it. but that will be where this case is defined.

I think you, and many, are operating on a false premise that the NCAA rules are clearer than they actually are relating specifically to this case. We both agree if a coach went to a game and scouted, this would be case closed.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol. No, but what is homeristic is suggesting the most punishments that the NCAA has ever come down with will happen because of some dudes in stands with iphones.
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LOL

Uh yeah, reporting back and directly providing the video data to Michigan who used it in competition.

Told ya this brain-dead homer would revert back to "tHeRe WaS nOtHiNg WrOnG hErE".
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL

Uh yeah, reporting back and directly providing the video data to Michigan.

Told ya this brain-dead homer would revert back to "tHeRe WaS nOtHiNg WrOnG hErE".
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As I said above.

I think you, and many, are operating on a false premise that the NCAA rules are clearer than they actually are relating specifically to this case. We both agree if a coach went to a game and scouted, this would be case closed. This wasn't a coach or UM staff member going to games.

What I said from the start is that this was ultimately stupid because (repeated a gross number of times) sign stealing is legal. So we're knit picking about how the sign stealing information is collecting. Yes, it's probably easier with someone in the stands. No, it's probably not the advantage you're trying to suggest it is. And all teams operate under the idea that the other teams are stealing sings, and go through great lengths to change, alter and prevent the other team from doing so. So the mechanism already exists and was in practice for teams to prevent what Michigan was doing.
 
fishinabarrel said:
He quoted your post that said Tenn committed over 200 infractions, 18 of them level 1 and said "see 200 level 1 violations"

I call him out on it and he quotes a sentence again saying 200 violations 18 of them Level 1 as if he got me.

I don't know how to win an argument with that
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arguing-with-retards
 
SlinkyRedfoot said:
Hahaha!

Posting a link supporting the other guy's point and saying, "derp."

What a dumbfuck. Funny as hell, though, so thanks for that.
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You're welcome.

but I still don't think we all understand really what all that means. Because they go on to list over 400+ violations. So I think it's plausible that my interpretation is correct, I just don't have any additional information to clarify it further. 18 different level 1 rule violations, spanning 200 incidents and 480+ total violations listed. But, again, without more specific clarification I am willing to say I don't actually know.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
As I said above.

I think you, and many, are operating on a false premise that the NCAA rules are clearer than they actually are relating specifically to this case. We both agree if a coach went to a game and scouted, this would be case closed. This wasn't a coach or UM staff member going to games.

What I said from the start is that this was ultimately stupid because (repeated a gross number of times) sign stealing is legal. So we're knit picking about how the sign stealing information is collecting. Yes, it's probably easier with someone in the stands. No, it's probably not the advantage you're trying to suggest it is. And all teams operate under the idea that the other teams are stealing sings, and go through great lengths to change, alter and prevent the other team from doing so. So the mechanism already exists and was in practice for teams to prevent what Michigan was doing.
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You are rationalizing.

The NCAA and the Big 10 couldn't give two flying fucks about Connor Stalions.

They are simply going to see this as a Michigan program issue and will punish the program accordingly.

Watch and Learn
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol. No, but what is homeristic is suggesting the most punishments that the NCAA has ever come down with will happen because of some dudes in stands with iphones.
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Your focus is wrong and at the wrong entity. Worry more about the B1G Conference. Here they’re working their butts off getting teams to join the conference and Michigan pulls this shit. Wait until other conferences encourage their teams not to schedule Michigan. The B1G Conference just took a giant hit to its credibility, honor, and respect all because now Michigan cheats. Does other conferences get more future playoff spots because Michigan cheats. Does the B1G Conference lose tv revenue because you know Michigan are cheaters and who wants to watch them? Sun Conference is legally bet on but not Michigan that cheats. Don’t think for one minute the Presidents of the other B1G are taking kindly to Michigan cheaters. Hell, Oregon and Washington might get more share money by taking it away from Michigan because their money is used to cheat.

All plausible
 
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