tOfficial B1G Thread

Deep Creek said:
I just saw that Rutgers doesn't have to play Ohio State, Michigan or Oregon this year. WTF? These big conferences don't have a clue who it their best team, next best team, etc at the end of the year.
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Just the way the schedule falls. It happened with B1G West teams before expansion.
 
Deep Creek said:
I know it is. Just gives a fool's gold in finding out who the best teams are. At least IMHO.
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Well, Rutgers does have to play at USC, at Nebraska, and vs Wisconsin to go along with at VT in OOC, so I'm sure we should have an idea of who they are anyhow.
 
Across The Field said:
Well, Rutgers does have to play at USC, at Nebraska, and vs Wisconsin to go along with at VT in OOC, so I'm sure we should have an idea of who they are anyhow.
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Last year's team felt like they were just an average/above average QB from being a pretty decent team IMO. They had a respectable defense and running back. They were hanging with Michigan and OSU until they had two back breaking pick sixes (they had a chance to take a 2 score lead on OSU and they were down 17-7 in the 3rd to Michigan)

Maryland should also be a tough game, especially if they find a successful replacement for Lil Tua. They should have a solid defense themselves and they've got good skill players.
 
navamind said:
Last year's team felt like they were just an average/above average QB from being a pretty decent team IMO. They had a respectable defense and running back. They were hanging with Michigan and OSU until they had two back breaking pick sixes (they had a chance to take a 2 score lead on OSU and they were down 17-7 in the 3rd to Michigan)

Maryland should also be a tough game, especially if they find a successful replacement for Lil Tua. They should have a solid defense themselves and they've got good skill players.
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Rutgers is definitely turning things around, I could see them having a nice year and possibly even ending as a top 25 team if things go as they could. They have a new QB who at least has some experience under his belt, so we'll see if they can put it together.

I'm not sure what to think about Maryland, though. I know there are some people who are really high on their new QB Morris, and he could be really good, but he's a fairly inexperienced kid joining a brand new team so we'll see. You're right though, they have some talent on that roster. They just need to put it all together for once.
 
Across The Field said:
Rutgers is definitely turning things around, I could see them having a nice year and possibly even ending as a top 25 team if things go as they could. They have a new QB who at least has some experience under his belt, so we'll see if they can put it together.

I'm not sure what to think about Maryland, though. I know there are some people who are really high on their new QB Morris, and he could be really good, but he's a fairly inexperienced kid joining a brand new team so we'll see. You're right though, they have some talent on that roster. They just need to put it all together for once.
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They should. That's why I pointed out they should do so because they avoid tOSU, Michigan and Oregon.
 
Deep Creek said:
They should. That's why I pointed out they should do so because they avoid tOSU, Michigan and Oregon.
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Do you think their schedule wouldn't be a good indicator of if they're a top 25 team though? I know they miss OSU and Oregon, but it's not like their schedule is a complete cakewalk either.
 
Across The Field said:
Do you think their schedule wouldn't be a good indicator of if they're a top 25 team though? I know they miss OSU and Oregon, but it's not like their schedule is a complete cakewalk either.
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I don't think it is a fair indicator in comparison to other teams in the conference that do have to play tOSU, Michigan and Oregon. i.e. Michigan State. Not only does Sparty play all three, they have to play two of them in back to back weeks. It is totally fair to use in comparing other teams in the conference that have similar schedules to theirs.

To be fair I will admit to this. We don't really know how difficult a team's schedule really is until the end of the season. To a certain extent, how good a team is depends on how their opponents seasons turn out. Opponents can turn out to be much better than predicted while others turn into a total catastrophe for the season after be expected to be real good. That could happen with Rutgers. Many of their opponents may outperform expectations. And Michigan States could turn out the other way if tOSU, Oregon and/or Michigan have clunker seasons.
 
Across The Field said:
Do you think their schedule wouldn't be a good indicator of if they're a top 25 team though? I know they miss OSU and Oregon, but it's not like their schedule is a complete cakewalk either.
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Given their schedule, I think going 8-4 would probably get them ranked in the top 25. It is a pretty easy schedule. They miss the top 4 projected teams(OSU, PSU, Michigan and Oregon). Get Washington(on a Friday) and UCLA at home(big travel boost). I think UCLA might be the worst team in the league next year. I don't think they play 1 team that finished ranked last season. I do think Nebraska and SC will be better, but my guess is those are the only ranked teams they may end up playing.
 
ericd7633 said:
Given their schedule, I think going 8-4 would probably get them ranked in the top 25. It is a pretty easy schedule. They miss the top 4 projected teams(OSU, PSU, Michigan and Oregon). Get Washington(on a Friday) and UCLA at home(big travel boost). I think UCLA might be the worst team in the league next year. I don't think they play 1 team that finished ranked last season. I do think Nebraska and SC will be better, but my guess is those are the only ranked teams they may end up playing.
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Deep Creek said:
I don't think it is a fair indicator in comparison to other teams in the conference that do have to play tOSU, Michigan and Oregon. i.e. Michigan State. Not only does Sparty play all three, they have to play two of them in back to back weeks. It is totally fair to use in comparing other teams in the conference that have similar schedules to theirs.

To be fair I will admit to this. We don't really know how difficult a team's schedule really is until the end of the season. To a certain extent, how good a team is depends on how their opponents seasons turn out. Opponents can turn out to be much better than predicted while others turn into a total catastrophe for the season after be expected to be real good. That could happen with Rutgers. Many of their opponents may outperform expectations. And Michigan States could turn out the other way if tOSU, Oregon and/or Michigan have clunker seasons.
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It won't be as tough of a test as MSU, you're definitely right there. However Rutgers does have to play at MSU, so we'll at least get a decent barometer at that time. If MSU beats them soundly, then I think we'll have a much better indication.

Of course your second paragraph is always right. I doubt OSU or Oregon have clunker seasons, but michigan is a complete wild card right now, and we have to wait and see with Penn State bringing in a new OC if they can maximize their offensive output. It was already shaping up to be a really interesting season in the B1G without expansion, but this certainly adds a fun wrinkle to things.
 
ericd7633 said:
Given their schedule, I think going 8-4 would probably get them ranked in the top 25. It is a pretty easy schedule. They miss the top 4 projected teams(OSU, PSU, Michigan and Oregon). Get Washington(on a Friday) and UCLA at home(big travel boost). I think UCLA might be the worst team in the league next year. I don't think they play 1 team that finished ranked last season. I do think Nebraska and SC will be better, but my guess is those are the only ranked teams they may end up playing.
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8-4 also seems realistic for them IMO. I see both Washington and UCLA being wins given the state of those programs, though I'm not as far down on UCLA. Ethan Garbers is a solid QB and I think he could have a good year, but their defense will take a step back losing their DC, which is also why I think USC takes a big step forward this year. I'm sold on them being a CFP team, and I think they're definitely going to be top 4 in the conference. If they make a statement against LSU, I could see them possibly being 11-0 when they play ND.
 
Sgt Brutus said:
And I don’t think schedules should be determined by how good teams were last year or are expected to be this year
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I don’t either. Like I said, you won’t know exactly until the end of the year. But skipping all of what is normally the best teams is a great advantage.
 
Across The Field said:
8-4 also seems realistic for them IMO. I see both Washington and UCLA being wins given the state of those programs, though I'm not as far down on UCLA. Ethan Garbers is a solid QB and I think he could have a good year, but their defense will take a step back losing their DC, which is also why I think USC takes a big step forward this year. I'm sold on them being a CFP team, and I think they're definitely going to be top 4 in the conference. If they make a statement against LSU, I could see them possibly being 11-0 when they play ND.
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Yeah, you're a lot higher on SC than I am. I think they'll beat Rutgers, but I could also see them being a 4 loss or 5 loss team. I think they'll for sure be better on defense, but take a step back on offense. I think they only have 2 for sure wins(Utah State and UCLA). They won't lose all their toss up games, but going 8-2 in them will be extremely difficult. It's just tough for me to get that ND game out of my head from last year. They were brutal in that game.
 
ericd7633 said:
Yeah, you're a lot higher on SC than I am. I think they'll beat Rutgers, but I could also see them being a 4 loss or 5 loss team. I think they'll for sure be better on defense, but take a step back on offense. I think they only have 2 for sure wins(Utah State and UCLA). They won't lose all their toss up games, but going 8-2 in them will be extremely difficult. It's just tough for me to get that ND game out of my head from last year. They were brutal in that game.
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I'm not saying Miller Moss is going to be the next #1 pick, but I think he's going to be really good. Their defense really was their Achille's heal last year but even with solid improvement, it should make a major difference. The ND game was a beatdown, but I thought a lot of that was Caleb trying to do too much, and also their defense just got gashed.
 
Across The Field said:
I'm not saying Miller Moss is going to be the next #1 pick, but I think he's going to be really good. Their defense really was their Achille's heal last year but even with solid improvement, it should make a major difference. The ND game was a beatdown, but I thought a lot of that was Caleb trying to do too much, and also their defense just got gashed.
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Oh yeah for sure their defense was really terrible. Their defense honestly played pretty well against ND, but the Online was just awful that game too. I agree Caleb tried to do to much that game, but I think it was because he had too. I think their defense will be improved(can't be much worse), but I just don't think enough to be an elite team(10+ wins). It'd be great if they were 11-0 heading into the ND game for ND's SOS metrics, but I just can't see it. That game against LSU is gonna be a fun one, and we should gain a lot of intel from it. The winner has a real shit at making the back end of the CFP IMO.
 
how does rutgers not play anyone ranked??

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