What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy

beardown07 said:
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The three tramps story is interesting. E. Howard Hunt is one of em'. Beleedat.
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One of those guys looks like Mel Gibson.
 
RoyMunson said:
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The house select committee on assassinations which investigated the jfk shooting agrees with this. They concluded that there were 3 shots and the first one missed. The second struck Kennedy and Connolly and the third shot was the head shot.
 
dbldwn711 said:
The house select committee on assassinations which investigated the jfk shooting agrees with this. They concluded that there were 3 shots and the first one missed. The second struck Kennedy and Connolly and the third shot was the head shot.
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So the same guy that can head shot a moving target after cycling a bolt hits a tree on a completely lined up shot?
 
RoyMunson said:
So the same guy that can head shot a moving target after cycling a bolt hits a tree on a completely lined up shot?
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Shit happens, maybe he sneezed.
 
ojb81 said:
even "shit" marines train to up to 500 yards distance with their rifles, so if he qualified at that range, then he's capable of making those shots from the depository.
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Ill add this.

Oswald worked in that building. He was familiar with the plaza, the sight lines, everything. This was not “foreign territory” for him. He didn’t have to GO somewhere to do the shooting. He had SOME amount of time to think about and plan those shots. That’s why people think he hit with the first shot. However, the THIRD shot was the most precise shot. Why? Couple of reasons. First, he could adjust his aim after missing the head with the first two. Second, the motorcade slowed down bc the driver turned backwards to see what was happening. He can’t speed away if his head is turned looking back. Lastly, by the time of the third shot Kennedy is in the open. The tree is no longer an obstruction.

Oswald has the benefit of readjusting his shot, the car is slowing down and Kennedy is the open. The third shot was the easiest.
 
RoyMunson said:
So the same guy that can head shot a moving target after cycling a bolt hits a tree on a completely lined up shot?
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The shot that missed hit a curb. The concrete shrapnel hit a man, James Tague, in the face.

That man testified to the Warren Commission that it was the second shot. And that shot came from the grassy knoll.
 
dbldwn711 said:
Ill add this.

Oswald worked in that building. He was familiar with the plaza, the sight lines, everything. This was not “foreign territory” for him. He didn’t have to GO somewhere to do the shooting. He had SOME amount of time to think about and plan those shots. That’s why people think he hit with the first shot. However, the THIRD shot was the most precise shot. Why? Couple of reasons. First, he could adjust his aim after missing the head with the first two. Second, the motorcade slowed down bc the driver turned backwards to see what was happening. He can’t speed away if his head is turned looking back. Lastly, by the time of the third shot Kennedy is in the open. The tree is no longer an obstruction.

Oswald has the benefit of readjusting his shot, the car is slowing down and Kennedy is the open. The third shot was the easiest.
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first shot is the easiest.

Take the re-enactments by actual marksmen and I'll bet ZERO of them missed the first shot.
 
 
Nosferatu said:
You can get to Stemmons from Main, you would just go past the freeway and loop back, no problem at all. Traffic nightmare? It's the President, you have the roads cleared just like they did coming down Main.

I think it's funny that the people who think it was Oswald ask for overwhelming evidence it wasn't him, there does not have to be overwhelming evidence just a couple small pieces gets the job done.

Why were there multiple people who testified they heard a shot from the grassy knoll? These people didn't all get together and come up with a plan to say they heard a shot coming from up there. In some of the videos you can see people pointing up there.

Why did his head go left after the fatal bullet struck? If it was from behind it would have gone forward/back not to the left. It would go to the left if it was a shot from the side. Why is the brain matter going to the back of the car if he was shot from behind?

Why was the SS on the car coming down main then got off before getting to Houston/Elm?
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Good feedback on the roads. I’m sure though that the SS looks at that underpass area and making a u-turn and just following down across Elm looked much smarter in the planning. Add to that they had buses in the caravan headed to the Trade Mart too. That’s not so much security issue as a logistical one.

I don’t ask for incontrovertible evidence. I’ve always kept an open mind. It’s just that those small bits never added up to conspiracy for me.

Why did his head go left? If one is taking a bullet in that way the head wouldn’t be thrown right. Further, he was wrapped right with a back brace from his thighs up to his sternum. He literally couldn’t bend much forward with that resistance. Finally, we’ve learned a lot more about neurology the last 60 years and what a body does when shot in the head. Yes, the missile can have some impact. It can also just smash it’s way through. What’s more at play for body movement is most of all a neurological seizing that throws the body around. Maybe he does go fully forward in another scenario, but again, he couldn’t lean forward much under any scenario.

Connelly surged up (neuro) and fell back and to the left. He got shot through right chest, right wrist and barely settled in left thigh. Why didnt he fall to the right as well?

I can’t answer the SS question well. Much like the video at the airport though it sure seems there were plans laid out before the trip that every agent wasn’t on the right page about.

That could spell conspiracy. Or, it could spell the moment they were in and the chances they took/allowed as a result. Kennedy was in Texas mending fences ahead of the 64 election. That was the main reason for the trip. Sure, Adlai Stevenson faced a rough crowd a few weeks before. There was every reason to see the climate as at least mildly hostile and prepare for it.

But what if Kennedy and his people pushed these things back so they didn’t roll through like an occupying force (not an optic you want to leave when you’re mending fences). That’s why the bubble top was gone. That’s why the agents were pushed back. It was chances that seemed politically expedient, and the SS should not have allowed for it. They surely don’t anymore.
 
broncosmitty said:
The shot that missed hit a curb. The concrete shrapnel hit a man, James Tague, in the face.

That man testified to the Warren Commission that it was the second shot. And that shot came from the grassy knoll.
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James Tague was standing in front of the triple overpass. He had been driving that day and pulled his car over because of traffic. He was BEHIND the grassy knoll. When he was shot he was looking UP dealey plaza towards the motorcade. How could the shot come from the grassy knoll?

After the shooting, a policeman approached him. He saw the cut on tagues face. The cop then noticed a fresh nick in the curbing and concluded that the bullet had struck the curb, kicked up some asphalt which struck tague in the face. The officer concluded that the bullet came from the TSBD
 
ojb81 said:
and nothing you mentioned indicates that it couldn't have been from behind. not a thing. take a class in ballistics if you need to.
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So often left out of conspiracy theories as well….Kennedy was wrapped from thigh to sternum in a very rigid back brace. He couldn’t fall forward easily.
 
RoyMunson said:
first shot is the easiest.

Take the re-enactments by actual marksmen and I'll bet ZERO of them missed the first shot.
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even if that’s true (and I’m not saying it is) the first shot was obscured by the tree. The thinking is the first shot missed bc of deflection by the tree.
 
I’m going to go back to what I said in post 41

nobody has given ANY type of theory about who did it. Everyone just keeps throwing random bits of information (some aren’t even facts) and saying “see… what about this”.

@Orlando_Eagles and I are saying LHO acted alone. Almost everyone else is saying he didn’t. Step up… if he didn’t who helped him? How did they do it? What proof are you relying upon to support your beliefs?
 
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