Man CBS Screwed Up Big Time

ericd7633 · May 3, 2023

Red_Alert said:
If it was on PAC 12 Network, the viewership likely too low to even rate.

I mean maybe. But still those Oregon numbers aren't correct. You can't include a 9th game when there is no data for it.

Red_Alert · May 3, 2023

ericd7633 said:
I mean maybe. But still those Oregon numbers aren't correct. You can't include a 9th game when there is no data for it.

Let's call it 200,000 then.

It's de minimis.

BTN numbers are on there but only if they broke a threshold.

ericd7633 · May 3, 2023

Red_Alert said:
Let's call it 200,000 then.

It's de minimis.

BTN numbers are on there but only if they broke a threshold.

In 2021 it drew 1.66 million. 200K is extremely low. Either way, there's no way of knowing.

WhosYourDawggy · May 3, 2023

Thiefery said:
that's business.. and full disclosure if I were CBS i would have tried to make things right because they were showcasing the most popular conference best games. I still think ESPN would have outbid anything CBS offered for tier 1, but with as deep as the conference is (will be), having 2nd pick still would have been terrific for CBS.

But man CBS decided to stick with it's wonderful deal.. same thing ESPN is doing with the ACC.. They wanted ESPN to give them a bump and ESPN told them...no lol

I, too, think ESPN would have outbid CBS. And, I think that SEC likes having one partner - selecting games was a pain in the ass and only gave is 2 weeks notice. Now ESPN controls all that and can make decisions way in advance.

WhosYourDawggy · May 3, 2023

Kburjr said:
The PGA Tour’s viewership on US broadcasters NBC, Golf Channel and CBS has increased during the ongoing 2023 season, according to Sports Business Journal (SBJ).

CBS has averaged 2.59 million viewers for four PGA Tour events, excluding the Masters, marking a four per cent jump YoY

PGA Tour US ratings increase for NBC, CBS and Golf Channel, says report - SportsPro

NBC has racked up a total audience delivery of 2.27 million viewers across seven PGA Tour events it has shown this season.

www.sportspromedia.com

LOL Golf outdraws 2/3 of College Football bowl game.

Isn't that 1 golf event per weekend (or call it 2 for each day) for all golf fans outdrawing some of about 30 games a week drawing sections of all CFB fans? If you look at it that way, is that really surprising?

Red_Alert · May 3, 2023

ericd7633 said:
In 2021 it drew 1.66 million. 200K is extremely low. Either way, there's no way of knowing.

That was on ESPN.

Red_Alert · May 3, 2023

I'm streaming HULU and don't get PAC 12 Network. I didn't get it on PS Vue either.
Very few get PAC 12 Network because it was such a shitty deal.

200k at best on that game.

Kburjr · May 3, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
Isn't that 1 golf event per weekend (or call it 2 for each day) for all golf fans outdrawing some of about 30 games a week drawing sections of all CFB fans? If you look at it that way, is that really surprising?

A TV show is a TV show. Still, a round of golf outgrew 2/3rds of the bowl games.

WhosYourDawggy · May 3, 2023

Kburjr said:
A TV show is a TV show. Still, a round of golf outgrew 2/3rds of the bowl games.

Well, it's not really, for the reason I stated - there are golfers and one golf tournament. You are comparing that against a small segment of CFB games. Sorry, but the logic just isn't there. Add up all the CFB games on the same day as golf and that is a more apt comparison.

Kburjr · May 4, 2023

WhosYourDawggy said:
Well, it's not really, for the reason I stated - there are golfers and one golf tournament. You are comparing that against a small segment of CFB games. Sorry, but the logic just isn't there. Add up all the CFB games on the same day as golf and that is a more apt comparison.

Not going to argue about it. Rationalize it anyway you want.

ericd7633 · May 4, 2023

Red_Alert said:
That was on ESPN.

I know. Anyway you want to spin it, your initial numbers weren't correct. It could have gotten 100K, it could have gotten 1 million.

Red_Alert · May 4, 2023

ericd7633 said:
I know. Anyway you want to spin it, your initial numbers weren't correct. It could have gotten 100K, it could have gotten 1 million.

Dude, back away from the bong.

Arizona St/Arizona only got 567k nationally on FS1
Miss St/Arizona only got 471k nationally on FS1

Arizona only averaged 506k when it was on national networks.

The PAC 12 Network is carried by very few.

The Oregon/Arizona time slot was up against the following....

Texas A&M/Alabama on CBS
Clemson/Boston College on ABC
BYU/Notre Dame on NBC
Wash St/USC on FOX
Iowa/Illinois on BTN (who every cable, satellite, and streaming service carries) only got 855k.
K. State/Iowa St on ESPNU only got 373k

Giving Oregon/Arizona 200k viewership on the PAC 12 Network is likely being generous.

Volbound1700 · May 4, 2023

The numbers don't reflect potential viewers that you pick up by the conference move as well. I think there will be even more excitement with programs like UCLA, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas when they join B1G/SEC.

For example, a Miss State fan maybe more likely to watch an OU or Texas game now that they are in the SEC or Ohio State fan more likely to watch a USC game.

You will also just get people that are not involved now in that area that may tune in to see Ohio State vs. USC that would not have prior to the realignment.

ericd7633 · May 4, 2023

Red_Alert said:
Dude, back away from the bong.

Arizona St/Arizona only got 567k nationally on FS1
Miss St/Arizona only got 471k nationally on FS1

Arizona only averaged 506k when it was on national networks.

The PAC 12 Network is carried by very few.

The Oregon/Arizona time slot was up against the following....

Texas A&M/Alabama on CBS
Clemson/Boston College on ABC
BYU/Notre Dame on NBC
Wash St/USC on FOX
Iowa/Illinois on BTN (who every cable, satellite, and streaming service carries) only got 855k.
K. State/Iowa St on ESPNU only got 373k

Giving Oregon/Arizona 200k viewership on the PAC 12 Network is likely being generous.

I'm not projecting what it could have gotten. I'm saying we don't know and never will. You're initial numbers were incorrect, is all I'm saying.

OlyDuck · May 4, 2023

Red_Alert said:
Who did that?

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
With USC and UCLA in the mix, it's possible (if not likely) that they'll be a ton more "great" games to put on CBS

Red_Alert · May 4, 2023

ericd7633 said:
I'm not projecting what it could have gotten. I'm saying we don't know and never will. You're initial numbers were incorrect, is all I'm saying.

We "don't know", but my "numbers were incorrect".

How can you know they're incorrect if we don't know? LMAO

200k is likely all that can be expected out of a game on the obscure PAC 12 Network.
I get to that by seeing the numbers on national networks (FS1, ESPN2, ESPNU) for that same timeslot. Networks that people actually get.

Regarding UCLA vs Oregon's PAC 12 averages. They were on the PAC 12 Network against a conference opponent one time each.
Therefore the maffs for each is the same.

Oregon had gotten blown the fuck out by Georgia 49-3 just a few weeks prior. Not many were going to rush to the obscure PAC 12 Network to watch them play Arizona who'd finished (1-11) the year prior.

Maryland/Indiana only got 392k on ESPN2. Omit that game (like your beloved Oregon PAC 12 Network game) and re-do the maffs or STFU.

I ain't got time for your dumbassery.

Red_Alert · May 4, 2023

OlyDuck said:
its a pointless point though. the whole topic is Big media so what does Oregon have to do with anything? nothing. including UCLA in the topic fine but to include them as if they are going to be in the top 5 of numbers is rediculous.

That's not what he said at all, you disingenuous POS.

Volbound1700 · May 4, 2023

Is there some kind of Oregon-Nebraska rivalry that I am not aware of?

ericd7633 · May 4, 2023

Red_Alert said:
We "don't know", but my "numbers were incorrect".

How can you know they're incorrect if we don't know? LMAO

200k is likely all that can be expected out of a game on the obscure PAC 12 Network.
I get to that by seeing the numbers on national networks (FS1, ESPN2, ESPNU) for that same timeslot. Networks that people actually get.

Regarding UCLA vs Oregon's PAC 12 averages. They were on the PAC 12 Network against a conference opponent one time each.
Therefore the maffs for each is the same.

Oregon had gotten blown the fuck out by Georgia 49-3 just a few weeks prior. Not many were going to rush to the obscure PAC 12 Network to watch them play Arizona who'd finished (1-11) the year prior.

Maryland/Indiana only got 392k on ESPN2. Omit that game (like your beloved Oregon PAC 12 Network game) and re-do the maffs or STFU.

I ain't got time for your dumbassery.

You quoted numbers with Oregon and a 9 game conference schedule. That is how what you said factually inaccurate.

We do not know what the Arizona/Oregon tv ratings are. Therefore, your initial post should only use an 8 game sample size. Christ, not that hard to figure out.

Volbound1700 · May 4, 2023

One item to keep in mind is that I think is going to be harder and harder for teams outside of the B1G/SEC pact to schedule those teams. Both leagues are probably going to move to 9-game conference schedules (maybe even 10-game).

I doubt they will want to schedule traditional home-home with ACC, Big12, Pac12 teams anymore and will have the power to dictate that. So if Oregon stays in Pac12, for example, they may find it difficult to get a B1G or SEC team to agree to a game in Autzen.