More Michigan Cheating

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

ellupo said:
So would sending someone to record the signals of an upcoming opponent when they play 2 weeks prior be legal? Its just sign stealing...

They already record videos of signals. Thats why this is so dumb. This is what game tape looked like when this rule was enacted.

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

osubuckeye89 said:
His logic is that because sign stealing isn’t technically illegal whatever method you use to steal the signs shouldn’t be illegal either.

It’s not just “technically”. It’s very much fully legal.

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

I think there’s more here than just some guy in a crowd. The B1G alerting future opponents and Vegas being put on alert by watch dogs about Michigan games is pretty unprecedented.

fishinabarrel · Oct 19, 2023

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
It’s not just “technically”. It’s very much fully legal.

There are tons of things that are legal but can be gone about in illegal ways. What is your point with this?

ericd7633 · Oct 19, 2023

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

osubuckeye89 said:
I think there’s more here than just some guy in a crowd. The B1G alerting future opponents and Vegas being put on alert by watch dogs about Michigan games is pretty unprecedented.

That’s literally the only illegal aspect it could be. And that’s all that’s being alleged by the ncaa. It seems like there should be more to this because what’s being alleged is dumb

NewPhoneWhoDis · Oct 19, 2023

fordman84 said:
It is against the rules to scout future opponents in person.

From the looks of Texas A&M success, it is also against the rules for them to scout anyone they play :hide:

CoalTrain · Oct 19, 2023

I see no other reasonable move by the NCAA other than Michigan being banned from post season play for 2-3 years beginning this season.

Sucks but, rules are rules :noidea:

Or rather investigations are investigations

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

ericd7633 said:

Glad we aren’t cheating then. Following the legal rule of sign stealing that everyone does under the guise of “scouting”

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
That’s literally the only illegal aspect it could be. And that’s all that’s being alleged by the ncaa. It seems like there should be more to this because what’s being alleged is dumb

If Vegas actually does pull Michigan games off the books Michigan you can bet is in deep shit.

HammerDown · Oct 19, 2023

LOL @ outraged Ohio State fans :laugh:

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

I also love the butt hurt OSU fans applying accusations this year to their ass kickings in the past two.

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I also love the butt hurt OSU fans applying accusations this year to their ass kickings in the past two.

I mean if y’all knew exactly what plays teams were running. You really wanna claim there’s no advantage to that?

NewPhoneWhoDis · Oct 19, 2023

ellupo said:
I just love watching MI fans try to give more excuses for cheating. Bless your heart.

What excuse is needed? It is no different than baseball. If you aren't trying to steal the signs of the other team, you aren't doing it right.

I would love to read about the vast network of people who hit the road to scout perennial powers UNLV, East Carolina, Rutgers, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Minnesota.

I'm confident -- this was reported to the NCAA by Ohio State. They are still upset they haven't beat UM on the football field since 2019, so they are coming up with excuses why.

williewilliejuan · Oct 19, 2023

osubuckeye89 said:
I mean if y’all knew exactly what plays teams were running. You really wanna claim there’s no advantage to that?

Ohio State only runs about three plays. What scouting do they need?

NewPhoneWhoDis · Oct 19, 2023

osubuckeye89 said:
I mean if y’all knew exactly what plays teams were running. You really wanna claim there’s no advantage to that?

Tell me you have never played football without telling me you have never played football. :facepalm:

MAIZEandBLUE09 · Oct 19, 2023

osubuckeye89 said:
I mean if y’all knew exactly what plays teams were running. You really wanna claim there’s no advantage to that?

That isn’t illegal. That’s called scouting. What don’t you grasp about that? Sign stealing is 100% legal. Yes. There’s an advantage. That’s why teams scout other teams and watch tape and try to steal signs. All of that is legal. Michigan is being accused of getting that information by having someone attend games in advance. That’s it. Rather than watching the tape with the included information on it.

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
What excuse is needed? It is no different than baseball. If you aren't trying to steal the signs of the other team, you aren't doing it right.

I would love to read about the vast network of people who hit the road to scout perennial powers UNLV, East Carolina, Rutgers, Nebraska, Bowling Green, Minnesota.

I'm confident -- this was reported to the NCAA by Ohio State. They are still upset they haven't beat UM on the football field since 2019, so they are coming up with excuses why.

So much for that Michigan is all about honor and integrity crap

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Tell me you have never played football without telling me you have never played football.

Y’all keep acting like obtaining other teams plays in ways that are clearly against the current rules is just “good scouting”

osubuckeye89 · Oct 19, 2023

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
That isn’t illegal. That’s called scouting. What don’t you grasp about that? Sign stealing is 100% legal. Yes. There’s an advantage. That’s why teams scout other teams and watch tape and try to steal signs. All of that is legal. Michigan is being accused of getting that information by having someone attend games in advance. That’s it. Rather than watching the tape with the included information on it.

Rules are rules.