Michigan’s Sherone Moore to be named head coach

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
We lost the S&C coach and promoted instantly thr guy who’s followed him around for a decade.

I’m just glad Deboer wasn’t available when Michigan was looking. I think he might not do great but we’ll see. It’s all a crap shoot. See Michigan hiring rich Rod.
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That doesn't always work out though.
 
I'm not sure how Moore will do for the record, I think he could succeed i'm not gonna say he's destined for failure. It's definitely not a Rich Rod type situation. I do think the first few years might not be what Michigan fans want them to be, 2023 set the bar as high as it could go, but I kinda get the feeling they might be ok with that after getting their title. Think he will get time as long as he doesn't totally nose dive.
 
Across The Field said:
I'm not missing the point, I understood Day's experience when he became the coach. I'm saying he had plenty of time to plan for the day Urban retired, and had his staff fully assembled almost immediately after the Rose Bowl was over.

Also, go out on whatever limb you want, but does that mean Harbaugh was flatout lying when he told Warde Manuel he was done interviewing for NFL jobs? Seems like his leaving was quite the surprise if you take him at his word.

Tell you what, if Moore goes out and goes 13-1 this year and obliterates the Big Ten the way Day did in his first year, I'll call it a great hire
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You confuse being the most talented team with being a great coach. You want to know why UM fans love Ryan Day? He hasn't beaten UM or won the B1G the last 3 years with, by far, the most talented roster in the B1G.

His record looks great, until you look at his record against teams who have even remotely close to the talent he has at OAM.

Imagine having CJ Stroud, Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Ngjiba-Smith, Chris Olave, Marvin Harrison Jr. Parris Johnson, Dawand Jones, Nichola Petit-Frere, Munford, Wypler and NOT winning your own conference or a CFP game.

You put those guys on the same NFL team right now and they'd be the #1 offense in the NFL. At OSU -- it couldn't get them even into the B1G CCG. That is all on Ryan Day.


And ZERO PEOPLE at UM thought Harbaugh wasn't interested in the NFL. Michigan offered him 10 years, 125 million dollars. In the end -- CFB doesn't have the Lombardi Trophy. Winning a national title in CFB is great for the fans. Winning a title in college for players is great, but it isn't close to winning a Super Bowl. That is the pinnacle of the sport. NFL is king.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'm not sure how Moore will do for the record, I think he could succeed i'm not gonna say he's destined for failure. It's definitely not a Rich Rod type situation. I do think the first few years might not be what Michigan fans want them to be, 2023 set the bar as high as it could go, but I kinda get the feeling they might be ok with that after getting their title. Think he will get time as long as he doesn't totally nose dive.
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I fully believe UM will lose 2, 3, 4 games next year. Not because Harbaugh left, but because we have a ridiculous schedule and we will have a ton of new starters. Even if Harbaugh came back -- we still wouldn't come near replicating what we did this past year.

Defensively -- we return a lot of big time talent. Will Johnson will be one of, if not, the best CB's in all of CFB. Mason Graham will be a 1st team all-american at DT next year (he was 2nd team this year). Kenneth Grant will be one of the top DT in the B1G. Rod Moore was 2nd team All-B1G and will be starting at safety for the 3rd year now.

It will come down to our offense and who is QB and what kind of offense we will run.
 
Across The Field said:
WTF are you talking about "making excuses"? Their two situations were quite different.

Also, the thing you don't seem to grasp is that every other blueblood in the nation feels like they can be contending for a title every year, except for evidently you guys. If you can't compete from an NIL level, that's 100% your own program's decision, and frankly it's remarkably stupid. OSU is nowhere near the top in NIL funds; both Judkins and Downs could've gotten more elsewhere. You have to at least take a swing though.
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Stop it. Judkins was going to the highest bidder, period, and essentially said as much. Same with Downs. If it wasn't the money -- Downs would have 1000% signed with Georgia, where he would have made plenty of money. OAM made him an offer he couldn't refuse. (Hence the OAM moniker you've earned)

And it isn't the UM football program's fault with NIL -- it is the administration. We couldn't offer Downs if we wanted to and definitely couldn't offer Judkins. We can offer grad transfers who have a clean academic slate. We can offer guys who haven't earned credits towards their major, because UM isn't accepting credits from other schools. Been that way forever. It is why you see us get so many grad transfers. Those are the guys we can sign.
 
cwerph said:
I am the world's worst predictor, so I am calling Michigan 12-0 next year in the regular season.

Take it FWIW.
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If Michigan goes 12-0 next year in the regular season. Hell has frozen over. We will have a very good defense, but on offense........................who knows?!?!
 
Across The Field said:
Well if what newphone is saying, they weren't at Harbaugh's mercy because they knew he was leaving.

Like I said earlier, if Moore comes in this year and wins 13 games and obliterates the entire Big10 like Day did in 2019, let me know.
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Day did great with Urban's recruits. How has Day done since then?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
We lost the S&C coach and promoted instantly thr guy who’s followed him around for a decade.

I’m just glad Deboer wasn’t available when Michigan was looking. I think he might not do great but we’ll see. It’s all a crap shoot. See Michigan hiring rich Rod. Being a first time head coach at a program propped up for you, is entirely different than hiring one who’s coming into the program fresh. Promoting a coordinator isn’t the same as going out and hiring someone else’s. Especially a coordinator who was coach for 5 games last season.
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Yep, new coaches are a total crap shoot. The Smarts are rare. People at UGA wanted Herman who was at Houston. We got Smart, Texas got Herman. Look at the wilderness UF and UTjr have been in for decades, running through coaches left and right.

When we fired Richt I was really afraid we made a mistake. Here is a guy who had won multiple SECCs, ran a clean program, awesome person. But, he couldn't win the big one. Sometimes it works out.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Stop it. Judkins was going to the highest bidder, period, and essentially said as much. Same with Downs. If it wasn't the money -- Downs would have 1000% signed with Georgia, where he would have made plenty of money. OAM made him an offer he couldn't refuse. (Hence the OAM moniker you've earned)

And it isn't the UM football program's fault with NIL -- it is the administration. We couldn't offer Downs if we wanted to and definitely couldn't offer Judkins. We can offer grad transfers who have a clean academic slate. We can offer guys who haven't earned credits towards their major, because UM isn't accepting credits from other schools. Been that way forever. It is why you see us get so many grad transfers. Those are the guys we can sign.
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5/9 of Michigans transfers from 2023 we're not grad transfers. Neither one currently expected to transfer in this year are grad transfers.
 
fishinabarrel said:
5/9 of Michigans transfers from 2023 we're not grad transfers. Neither one currently expected to transfer in this year are grad transfers.
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I haven't went thru last year's, but Josh Priebe is a grad transfer from Northwestern. He is honestly the only guy I even know we've signed from the portal.
 
fishinabarrel said:
5/9 of Michigans transfers from 2023 we're not grad transfers. Neither one currently expected to transfer in this year are grad transfers.
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Trying to think who we brought in from 2023. I know one of them wasn't. He was only a freshman from Nebraska. We can get a kid like that if they don't mind losing credits.

Henderson from ASU was a grad transfer, Hinton and Nugent from Stanford were grad transfers. AJ Barner and Tuttle from Indiana were grad transfers. Josh Wallace from UMass was a grad transfer.

Only guy i don't know about is Josiah Stewart.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Trying to think who we brought in from 2023. I know one of them wasn't. He was only a freshman from Nebraska. We can get a kid like that if they don't mind losing credits.

Henderson from ASU was a grad transfer, Hinton and Nugent from Stanford were grad transfers. AJ Barner and Tuttle from Indiana were grad transfers. Josh Wallace from UMass was a grad transfer.

Only guy i don't know about is Josiah Stewart.
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Drake Nugent, Tuttle, and Barner are not listed as grad transfers on 247.

The other two are Stewart and Hausman
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'm not sure how Moore will do for the record, I think he could succeed i'm not gonna say he's destined for failure. It's definitely not a Rich Rod type situation. I do think the first few years might not be what Michigan fans want them to be, 2023 set the bar as high as it could go, but I kinda get the feeling they might be ok with that after getting their title. Think he will get time as long as he doesn't totally nose dive.
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the thing with Rich Rod is that Carr left him little to work with, on top of implementing a new system. He came into a program with like 6 offensive linemen on the entire roster and started the 2008 season with fucking Nick Sheridan and Steven Threet at QB. So not only did they have to break in a new OL with no depth whatsoever, but they had to replace Henne/Hart/Manningham/Arrington.

Rich Rod did fuck up trying to force Scott Shafer to run a 3-3-5. He was fired and went on to turn around Syracuse's defense while Greg Robinson came in as the new DC to run said defense and it was a disaster for two years... and then Michigan had the 6th best scoring defense in their first season post-Robinson (2011). If someone could have talked Rich Rod out of running the 3-3-5, I think things would have been better especially in 2010. That offense looked like a fully functional Rich Rod offense at least, though it leaned more heavily on Denard's running ability more than most WVU running games leaned on their QBs.
 
navamind said:
the thing with Rich Rod is that Carr left him little to work with, on top of implementing a new system. He came into a program with like 6 offensive linemen on the entire roster and started the 2008 season with fucking Nick Sheridan and Steven Threet at QB. So not only did they have to break in a new OL with no depth whatsoever, but they had to replace Henne/Hart/Manningham/Arrington.

Rich Rod did fuck up trying to force Scott Shafer to run a 3-3-5. He was fired and went on to turn around Syracuse's defense while Greg Robinson came in as the new DC to run said defense and it was a disaster for two years... and then Michigan had the 6th best scoring defense in their first season post-Robinson (2011). If someone could have talked Rich Rod out of running the 3-3-5, I think things would have been better especially in 2010. That offense looked like a fully functional Rich Rod offense at least.
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Well Ryan Mallet was on the roster as well but was not going to fit into RRs system
 
Saturday October 26, 2024 the Michigan State Spartans visit Ann Arbor for the Paul Bunyan Trophy Game...

I wonder how the Michigan fan base would react if 1st year Sparty coach Jonathan Smith beats 1st year Wolverines coach Sherrone Moore at Michigan Stadium?

:lm:
 
Innermind said:
Saturday October 26, 2024 the Michigan State Spartans visit Ann Arbor for the Paul Bunyan Trophy Game...

I wonder how the Michigan fan base would react if 1st year Sparty coach Jonathan Smith beats 1st year Wolverines coach Sherrone Moore at Michigan Stadium?

:lm:
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We won't burn couches.


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osubuckeye89 said:
@MAIZEandBLUE09 how patient are you willing to be with Moore?
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My only thing is that I don’t want to go back to the Hoke/RR era. If Moore puts a quality product on the field, I’m good. I just don’t want to watch bad football, it’s a real bummer. Regular 10+ win seasons is my expectation. If Moore doesn’t do that within 4 years, I think you reevaluate.
 
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