Appropriate times to bunt

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

Kburjr said:
Ball one. Advantage hitter.

If all goes well, a pinch runner on first while the batter is bleeding out of his ears

Kburjr · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
If all goes well, a pinch runner on first while the batter is bleeding out of his ears

This is why pitchers should bat.

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

Kburjr said:
This is why pitchers should bat.

Nah, I’m all for anything that means less bunting

PackJason · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
Nah, I’m all for anything that means less bunting

It's pretty apparent you don't care about the game. You just wanna see balls fly over your head.

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

PackJason said:
It's pretty apparent you don't care about the game. You just wanna see balls fly over your head.

I care about winning, and I trust the analytics that say bunting with position players is bad

PackJason · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
I care about winning, and I trust the analytics that say bunting with position players is bad

Striking out trying to park every pitch is worse.

It's a multifaceted game. Small ball is part of it. Dingers are part of it.

Would you prefer the ball on a tee?

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

PackJason said:
Striking out trying to park every pitch is worse.

It's a multifaceted game. Small ball is part of it. Dingers are part of it.

Would you prefer the ball on a tee?

Nah, ball on a tee eliminates walks. 3 outcome baseball is the only real baseball

PackJason · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
Nah, ball on a tee eliminates walks. 3 outcome baseball is the only real baseball

What the fuck does 3 outcome baseball mean?

DragonFromTo · May 13, 2023

navamind said:
There was one time Dusty tried to get Dunn to bunt with 2 on, down 1 in the 9th and Dunn hit a walk off homer instead.

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Big Bob Robertson somewhat famously missed a bunt sign in a playoff game and hit a three run homer for the Pirates. Can't remember the exact details.

edit: here we go, I wasn't sure if it was well known enough for me to be able to quickly find a write up, I shoulda known :wink:

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Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

PackJason said:
What the fuck does 3 outcome baseball mean?

Homers, walks and strikeouts. Swing for the fences, but also have good plate discipline

tabascojet · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
Homers, walks and strikeouts. Swing for the fences, but also have good plate discipline

PackJason · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
Homers, walks and strikeouts. Swing for the fences, but also have good plate discipline

Boring.

There are like 7 different ways for a batter to reach base.

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

PackJason said:
Boring.

There are like 7 different ways for a batter to reach base.

Hit
Walk
HBP
Error
Dropped strike 3
Fielders choice
Catchers interference

Adds up, but I like instant runs

And there’s 65 ways to make an out. Sal is a rain delay radio legend

Kburjr · May 13, 2023

Hitting .220 while hitting 30 HRs sucks. Give me a .280 hitter with 20 HRs.

Kburjr · May 13, 2023

Can't hit 3 run homers unless 2 guys merely reached base.

PackJason · May 13, 2023

I think there are 8 ways now because of the pitch clock.

PackJason · May 13, 2023

Kburjr said:
Can't hit 3 run homers unless 2 guys merely reached base.

Give me the Ribbies.

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

Kburjr said:
Hitting .220 while hitting 30 HRs sucks. Give me a .280 hitter with 20 HRs.

Need more info. What’s the OPS?

Kburjr · May 13, 2023

Illustrious Potentate said:
Need more info. What’s the OPS?

Of course you do. That's why saying HRs is the target is bull. Scoring runs is the target. BABIP to me is a more telling stat. Strikeouts and walks put almost zero stress on the other team. Strike out 35% of the time to homer 5% of the time is a losing proposition.

Illustrious Potentate · May 13, 2023

Kburjr said:
Of course you do. That's why saying HRs is the target is bull. Scoring runs is the target. BABIP to me is a more telling stat. Strikeouts and walks put almost zero stress on the other team. Strike out 35% of the time to homer 5% of the time is a losing proposition.

Not according to analytics. Walks are very important, they wear down a pitcher and get runners on in front of the homers. BABIP is largely luck, and if you strikeout 100 times in a row and then leg out an infield single, your BABIP over that 101 AB stretch is 1.000.