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What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy
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didn't she stop when she entered the shade?
maybe not if neither have the chance of anybody shooting at you.
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you’ve asked this question a couple of times. You want me to speculate about why Oswald took that first shot when he did? Ok? Let’s see I do that… I speculate. What does that prove? The fact is we don’t know why he took that shot when he did. Are you saying he didn’t shoot that shot when he did?
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I'm saying it makes no sense, how stupid would it be to risk that shot through trees and what kind of shooter misses from 120 feet but hits a bullseye from 265 feet?
The role of the signaler made sense if you believe there were two or three teams at different locations. Even with say a rooftop spotter on a radio verifying JFKs limo was on the way, you want a ground man to verify it after the turn in case there is a radio malfunction or the cars shuffle positions as a security maneuver. Now this is the reasoning used for years as proof positive that there was a conspiracy because is is basic fieldcraft. It took me a long time to ask myself ... if the unknown "Umbrella Man" was proof there was a conspiracy due to basic fieldcraft AND he is eliminated from being part of said conspiracy, shouldn't the lack of basic fieldcraft be evidence that there was no conspiracy? It defiantly means that to me but it took a while to realize that.
I need to address this in a separate, more detailed post. I see that I have muddied the waters a bit but the post will be long. I will tag you in a few. I do want to remind everyone that I believe that LHO assassinated JFK and 99% of the time I believe he acted alone.
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you’re getting a facepalm bc im showing you can use a bow and arrow and hit a target more then 3x further. I’m not suggesting they are the same. I’m using the bow shot for perspective. You trying to use it as literal argument gets a facepalm.
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are you saying he didn’t take that shot then?
Yes. And whip her head around back toward the building, as one does when they enter shade.
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now I think you are onto something. I think there’s lots of CYA going on rather than conspiracy coverup. The two can often be confused for one another when looking at things after the fact.
I think the government is on serious CYA mode bc of incompetence rather than trying to cover up involvement. That’s my opinion, however if you have any EVIDENCE of a criminal cover up (as opposed to incompetence) I’m all ears.
Not everything is yes or no, sometimes it's just part of the conversation. I have a hard time believing either scenario.
Obviously you know how difficult that is so many years after the event, it also doesn't help people were silenced and the WC didn't listen to anyone who said anything that went against the narrative.
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im saying, for whatever reason in his head he took that shot and it missed and hit a curb which kicked up asphalt which struck George Tague in the face.
Now, how about answering my question. In fact, how about answering THE question: how many shots and from where? You’ve thrown out LOTS of “what if’s” but not many “here’s what I think”.
Actually, my bad. Seriously, I promised I wouldn’t ask you that again and I did. Don’t answer it. I’m serious. I didn’t delete it bc I’m just illustrating that’s it’s very difficult (for me at least) to have a meaningful dialogue if you just keep throwing random facts out and asking “what if”.
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fair enough
This has been my thoughts as well. So many things that lead to a conspiracy theory forming can easily just be poor management, planning, etc.
I think Kennedy and his handlers pushed no bubble top and not agents on the back bumper due to the optics. He was in Texas mending fences leading up to the re-election run.
A similar scenario these days could have the Presidents handlers pushing for these things and the SS pointing out that they are not budging, then reminded them that JFK is the reason they are not budging.
Short of Hinkley they haven’t had a gap since. Part of that is luck. But a big part of that is they greatly ramped security and won’t budge on it for any of the reasons they allowed themselves to be budged on on this day.
You’re right evidence is cold as hell at this point. You have to go with what evidence is there already to base off of.
Which….based upon the second half of your post I’m not sure you have faith in.
I’m not sure what you mean by “people were silenced”.
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@Orlando_Eagles touched upon this earlier. A proper investigation would have taken much longer than they took. I suspect that they were balancing the need for answers to calm the public vs dotting every I and crossing every T. They didn’t have any physical evidence to support a second shooter so they went with lone gunman. In the process they didn’t run to ground every little scenario. It’s really only in THAT missing info where these conspiracys live. IMO the book in the OP runs down those missing unanswered questions which is why I like it.