Harbaugh facing 4 game suspension

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Except you're remembering that wrong. The violations the players committed were, in of themselves, MAJOR NCAA violations. Then Tressel lied to cover the MAJOR NCAA violation up. Tressel didn't just resign because of this once incident, it was a pattern under him while at Ohio State, all nicely detailed here:
www.si.com

George Dohrmann: SI investigation reveals more violations at Ohio State

The character traits that have made Jim Tressel a successful football coach and a beloved figure in Ohio are numerous and frequently cited. Former NFL coach
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So no, Tressel didn't just get fired because he lied about minor things. Tressel got fired because he had a history of NCAA violations, knew about his players committed major NCAA violations, covered them up, played those players and then got caught covering up MAJOR NCAA violations. He didn't just simply buy a player a cheeseburger and lie about it.

Now, looking back, those things being done would be legal now. But it doesn't change what occurred in the era of football that it did.
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Are we talking coaching punishment or players punishments?

Tressel got fired because he had a history of NCAA violations
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I dont remember any other charges from the NCAA other than that form he signed.
www.cbsnews.com

Jim Tressel lied to hide violations, NCAA says

NCAA accuses Ohio State coach of lying to keep Buckeyes players who had accepted improper benefits on the field
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Sounds familiar, a coach who lied...

Honestly I think this is just the NCAA trying to make an example out of Harbs for his attitude. However I do enjoy the MI fans coming to the defense as if they know exactly what Harbs did/knew and said. Reminds me of the Buckeye fans.
 
ellupo said:
Are we talking coaching punishment or players punishments?


I dont remember any other charges from the NCAA other than that form he signed.
www.cbsnews.com

Jim Tressel lied to hide violations, NCAA says

NCAA accuses Ohio State coach of lying to keep Buckeyes players who had accepted improper benefits on the field
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

Sounds familiar, a coach who lied...

Honestly I think this is just the NCAA trying to make an example out of Harbs for his attitude. However I do enjoy the MI fans coming to the defense as if they know exactly what Harbs did/knew and said. Reminds me of the Buckeye fans.
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From my link

As coach at Youngstown (Ohio) State in the mid-1990s, he claimed not to know that his star quarterback had received a car and more than $10,000 from a school trustee and his associates -- even though it was later established in court documents that Tressel had told the player to go see the trustee. In 2003, during Tressel's third season in Columbus, Buckeyes running back Maurice Clarett was found to have received money and other benefits. Even though Tressel said he spent more time with Clarett than with any other player, he also said he did not know that Clarett had been violating the rules. A year later an internal Ohio State investigation (later corroborated by the NCAA) found that quarterback Troy Smith had taken $500 from a booster. It was the second time the booster had been investigated for allegedly providing improper benefits to a star player, but again Tressel said he had no knowledge of the illicit payment.
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Lied about MAJOR violations spanning multiple players and multiple years..... not a single minor violation involving a burger.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
From my link



Lied about MAJOR violations spanning multiple players and multiple years..... not a single minor violation involving a burger.
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I said it back when the USC stuff came out, I said it when the OSU stuff came out, and I'll say it again - if you think this shit hasn't been happening at every major football program for decades, you are supremely naïve. There were certainly things like this happening at michigan dating back from before Harbaugh got there, and the truth is, nobody should give a shit.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
From my link



Lied about MAJOR violations spanning multiple players and multiple years..... not a single minor violation involving a burger.
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Im looking for NCAA charges in that post. I dont see any...
 
Across The Field said:
I said it back when the USC stuff came out, I said it when the OSU stuff came out, and I'll say it again - if you think this shit hasn't been happening at every major football program for decades, you are supremely naïve. There were certainly things like this happening at michigan dating back from before Harbaugh got there, and the truth is, nobody should give a shit.
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That's probably true. It's also probably true that it happened at massively disproportionate rates at certain schools.
 
Well, I know I should be shocked, but I'm not shocked...


...that yet another thread devolved into a Michigan-Ohio State whizzing match
 
Across The Field said:
I said it back when the USC stuff came out, I said it when the OSU stuff came out, and I'll say it again - if you think this shit hasn't been happening at every major football program for decades, you are supremely naïve. There were certainly things like this happening at michigan dating back from before Harbaugh got there, and the truth is, nobody should give a shit.
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Nebraska is clean..


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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
By above "this" -- you mean -- meeting kids during a covid shutdown on "official" visits and buying them a $10 hamburger? I'm not sure that's the same thing as handing Cam Newton a bag of cash. This was a minor violation turned into a major violation because Harbaugh said "I don't remember" in response to them asking about it. Dude plead the 5th and got a major violation.

And more importantly, there's no way in the world the NCAA would hand out a 4 game suspension to an SEC coach for "misleading" the NCAA about buying a kid a hamburger.
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The old magician trick....and the NCAA is too stupid to catch it. Every school does it. Let's have this hand perform a real minor "hamburger" infraction so they won't notice us giving a "bag of cash" out with the other hand.
 
Deep Creek said:
The old magician trick....and the NCAA is too stupid to catch it. Every school does it. Let's have this hand perform a real minor "hamburger" infraction so they won't notice us giving a "bag of cash" out with the other hand.
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I wish we were handing kids bags of cash if we're going to be punished like we are.
 
This is bullshit.I asked Harbs to pick me up a burger. Then, Day bought me lunch, so I called Harbaugh and told him to donate the burger to some needy kid.
 
I’m bored with this thread.

Michigan fans - This is a travesty and everyone else got off a lot easier.

Everyone else - No biggie just sit out.
 
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